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Free Speech Restrictions #8470422
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In light of recent events, there's been talk about what is and isn't acceptable as free speech. So, I'm curious as to what other folks here think. What restrictions, if any, would you approve of or allow on free speech/expression?

For me personally......the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law...." And that sounds good to me. No law means no law, not some laws. And, of course with Congress being the only branch with the power to make law, whatever the executive and judiciary thinks is irrelevant. I personally would be all for no restrictions at all on speech and expression. Of course, there are other laws that don't restrict speech, but may still prevent it in certain instances. (For example....burning a flag should be legal, but we have laws against starting fires in city streets, which would prevent burning a flag during a protest in cities).

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470424
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Troll much?

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470426
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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470427
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Up until that right infringes on mine.

Example.....morons parading around ON the road, blocking it. Ya can say the same thing from the sidewalk.
The people blocking roads under the free speech guise should look like most possums that wonder around on the road.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470432
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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: hippie] #8470434
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Originally Posted by hippie
Up until that right infringes on mine.

Example.....morons parading around ON the road, blocking it. Ya can say the same thing from the sidewalk.
The people blocking roads under the free speech guise should look like most possums that wonder around on the road.

I would agree with this. Whatever they're protesting about is fine, but we have laws about standing in the road.

Unless, of course, they've obtained a parade permit (which of course should be approved or denied on a content-neutral basis).

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470435
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Too often free speech starts out that way, then turns violent. George Floyd in the Twin Cities comes to mind for one.


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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470442
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Should it really be legal to use obscenities around young kids? I'm old fashioned, maybe but I don't think that's ever necessary.
As far as expressing ideas, no restrictions.


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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: ~ADC~] #8470443
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Troll much?


Ha! I'm out too.

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470444
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Standing on the roads/highways was always illegal the woke powers at be did not enforce the laws on the books for fear of upsetting their woke voter base. If enforcement got out of control it might hurt their reelection efforts and dark money.


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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470446
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I agree with your take on the First Amendment. What people don't seem to understand that you can say or post pretty much anything (Other than yelling FIRE in a crowded theater) but there can be repercussions from employers. People that have a job where they are in a position of prominence or power can be relived from their employment because of actions detrimental to their employer's reputation or culture. This also applies to every position in said company. This is especially true of private companies and in my home state of Missouri concerning state government jobs. These fall under the category of " At Will " employers. Meaning that you can be dismissed for any reason other than a violation of Federal Labor Laws. I remember being told at statewide conferences more than once, that we were all "at will" employees. Still doesn't sit well after all these years. (This was the Missouri Department of Conservation). At any rate, in most circumstances, you can be let go because of your actions including " free speech" from any "at will" job or a violation of job contracts.

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470447
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I'm out too.

There is NOTHING left to be talked about with the left.


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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470451
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Slippery slope. Violence shouldn't be allowed, but Bondi may need to recalibrate her compass.

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Originally Posted by loosegoose
In light of recent events, there's been talk about what is and isn't acceptable as free speech. So, I'm curious as to what other folks here think. What restrictions, if any, would you approve of or allow on free speech/expression?

For me personally......the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law...." And that sounds good to me. No law means no law, not some laws. And, of course with Congress being the only branch with the power to make law, whatever the executive and judiciary thinks is irrelevant. I personally would be all for no restrictions at all on speech and expression. Of course, there are other laws that don't restrict speech, but may still prevent it in certain instances. (For example....burning a flag should be legal, but we have laws against starting fires in city streets, which would prevent burning a flag during a protest in cities).


We had our voices silenced in the last regime...

But I think you mis - remembered that..


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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470479
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Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: loosegoose] #8470482
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This one time, at band camp.....

Re: Free Speech Restrictions [Re: Trapper7] #8470513
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
IThere is NOTHING left to be talked about with the left.


I agree, they're dumb. Thankfully, I haven't seen any lefties in this thread.

Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Originally Posted by loosegoose
In light of recent events, there's been talk about what is and isn't acceptable as free speech. So, I'm curious as to what other folks here think. What restrictions, if any, would you approve of or allow on free speech/expression?

For me personally......the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law...." And that sounds good to me. No law means no law, not some laws. And, of course with Congress being the only branch with the power to make law, whatever the executive and judiciary thinks is irrelevant. I personally would be all for no restrictions at all on speech and expression. Of course, there are other laws that don't restrict speech, but may still prevent it in certain instances. (For example....burning a flag should be legal, but we have laws against starting fires in city streets, which would prevent burning a flag during a protest in cities).


We had our voices silenced in the last regime...

But I think you mis - remembered that..



Nope. Didn't forget it at all.





Anyway.....
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Too often free speech starts out that way, then turns violent. George Floyd in the Twin Cities comes to mind for one.

This is basically the answer, as far as I see it. If speech crosses into criminal action, then, of course, it's no longer speech and should be dealt with as such. But speech/expression, in and of itself, just isn't violence, no matter what that speech is, despite what lefties might say. (They also say silence is violence, so I guess they just can't make up their mind.)

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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Should it really be legal to use obscenities around young kids? I'm old fashioned, maybe but I don't think that's ever necessary.
As far as expressing ideas, no restrictions.

Who gets to decide what is obscene and what isn't? What would be the legal age for kids to hear obscenities?
Of course people shouldn't swear around kids, but that's a common sense thing that no law is going to change.

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Charles Manson went to prison for life. He never killed anyone, he told people to kill.

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