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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Savell] #8475018
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by PAskinner
[quote=yotetrapper30]PaSkinner, if you think Billy Graham and Jeffrey Dahmer are on the same level, then I cannot even carry on this conversation with you.
Which one was better? Because Billy would agree with me.
Degrees of sin are just our finite human perception faking us out.


. If dahmer had you hemmed in closet would you turn the other cheek?

I think you misunderstand the concept.


The core message is to refrain from taking personal revenge or seeking to get even.
A Counter-Cultural Act: In first-century culture, a slap was a public dishonoring intended to belittle someone's honor. By turning the other cheek, Jesus challenged this focus on personal honor and the pursuit of worldly justice ..it's about not flipping out over insults. Not about self defense in the case of real aggression.


Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475020
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. Just making sure you werent open to it


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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Savell] #8475026
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Originally Posted by Savell
. Just making sure you werent open to it


You shopping for a new friend? Sounds that way, maybe that saying about Texas has some truth to it steers and ...... wink Kidding of course but you walked right into it.

Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475028
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What if the puppy was told, and it could actually understand, it would be lit on fire if it ate it? Puppy wouldn't eat it. Dogs are smarter than that.

Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Providence Farm] #8475029
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Savell
. Just making sure you werent open to it


You shopping for a new friend? Sounds that way, maybe that saying about Texas has some truth to it steers and ...... wink Kidding of course but you walked right into it.


. You want to go camping?


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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: J Staton] #8475032
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Originally Posted by J Staton
What if the puppy was told, and it could actually understand, it would be lit on fire if it ate it? Puppy wouldn't eat it. Dogs are smarter than that.


an omnipotent God would know the results he is all powerful and all knowing so he created all the bad things in the world knowing full well the pain, suffering and chaos that would ensue

.. a sadist at the very least


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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Savell] #8475042
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by J Staton
What if the puppy was told, and it could actually understand, it would be lit on fire if it ate it? Puppy wouldn't eat it. Dogs are smarter than that.


an omnipotent God would know the results he is all powerful and all knowing so he created all the bad things in the world knowing full well the pain, suffering and chaos that would ensue

.. a sadist at the very least



All part of free will. I understand your stance have had those thoughts along my journey at different points also . I can't rember or articulate what or how I over came them or what the answers were unfortunately. Memory problems were bad enough after the head injurys, but MS is taking it to a new level at times

Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475045
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the free will thing doesnt work as an all knowing God would know who chooses and who does not and they were created to do such I think he just likes to torture things he created


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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475052
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Is love even possible without free will?

For me personally, the battles I deal with daily now are for the most part by my own doing. By living a life that was not virtuous, but rather benefited me. I was/am a real selfish POS.

I hear folks all the time say they wouldn't change a thing about their lives; boy would I. I did a lot of stupid ignorant stuff and said a lot of hateful and hurtful things to people that loved me the most. Had I chance to do it over again; I would. Driving nails into people hurts and leaves a mark; but it will heal eventually.....but there is always a scar, and those scars is what you have to deal with as the days turn into years.

Whatever Vinke is going through I wish him the best and am praying for him.


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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: BigBob] #8475055
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Ummmmmm,,,, thought we would have more contemporary Christian music,,,,,

Thanks Big Bob..l.

Sevell and Delawarerob. I will hold on you two untill my bungee cord takes me up,,,,,,,,,
And you forgot yours.down..


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475059
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Here you go Vinke. This girl rocks this song!



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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475061
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Now its back.


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475064
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Thanks Sirl.l I can sing that song in 44 tempo


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
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Re: Thinking about jumping off a clifffffff [Re: Vinke] #8475095
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Some of my weirdo Christian music.




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