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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Chancey] #8478160
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Originally Posted by Chancey
What do ya'll think?

Gold Revaluation

Unfortunately for the conspiracy freaks and propagandists at Zero Hedge........revaluing gold would require an act of Congress. There is nothing the Treasury Secretary can do on his own.

Of course ZH isn't going to tell you that


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478204
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There is approximately 22 trillion dollars in the m2 money supply, how high should gold get revalued?


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Steven 49er] #8478207
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
There is approximately 22 trillion dollars in the m2 money supply, how high should gold get revalued?


To visualize the change in that over the years....

[Linked Image]


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478267
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Yote,,,,,Have you read “the big print” yet?

Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478280
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I have not.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: yotetrapper30] #8478303
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
There is approximately 22 trillion dollars in the m2 money supply, how high should gold get revalued?


To visualize the change in that over the years....

[Linked Image]


It isn't hard to determine when they stopped backing currency with gold.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478320
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I did not bother to google it but I suspect an inflation graph would look like a twin.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478333
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Not quite.

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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478341
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Left side is percent. percentage of increase from the previous year. need one that shows the cost of something basic like food.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478342
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Actually, i do not believe inflation is a twin. For example look at the period from 2008 to 2020. Not high inflation. The extremely high inflation of the late 70's and 80's was not a huge increase in M2.

Never mind . Yote's graph shows what my personal experience was.

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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478345
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Costs of goods were calculated differently in the 70s and early 80s. Using the same metric Angela's second graph would look much different


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478346
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So what is going on then? Until today, as White pointed out, I was completely unaware that Congress has the power to change the value of Gold. I thought that is why Gold is a good backing of currency cause it is what it is, its value is based on supply and demand. Like Danny, I would assume that inflation would correlate with the amount of Money printed. Those graphs don't suggest that is the case. Where am I not understanding?


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478352
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Chancy, congress doesn't have the power to value gold in a strict sense. The market does that.

The US values it's gold holdings at $42.22 an ounce. Congress could revalued it's holdings at the market rate. I don't think they will


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478363
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Printing of money is one cause of inflation but not the only cause.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Chancey] #8478369
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Printing of money is one cause of inflation but not the only cause.


Originally Posted by Chancey
So what is going on then? Until today, as White pointed out, I was completely unaware that Congress has the power to change the value of Gold. I thought that is why Gold is a good backing of currency cause it is what it is, its value is based on supply and demand. Like Danny, I would assume that inflation would correlate with the amount of Money printed. Those graphs don't suggest that is the case. Where am I not understanding?


I think what you found out was gold backed currency does not mean the government cannot create money out of thin air. They can't create more gold instantaneously, but they can change it's value with a stroke of a pen like FDR did.


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: yotetrapper30] #8478374
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Printing of money is one cause of inflation but not the only cause.


What else is?


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Re: Rothchilds civil war conspiracy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8478413
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Lower interest rates, govt spending, demand that exceeds supply, tariffs, supply chain issues, etc.


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