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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478733
09/30/25 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Remember these " Americans" that were fighting against " overbearing and peculiar people" were practicing slavery. Anything hypocritical about this?


And you were harmed how?

By corruption of basic human rights and the crimes against humanity that hinder the functionality of a free and just society

Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478737
09/30/25 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by warrior


And you were harmed how?

By corruption of basic human rights and the crimes against humanity that hinder the functionality of a free and just society


So you are somewhere around one hundred and eighty five years old and didn't get your freedom on your 21st birthday?

I asked just how WERE YOU DIRECTLY HARMED. Not some theorectically strawman.

By your reasoning the king of England owes me big.

As for a free and just society it seems like we functioned quite well until a bunch New England Karens got up in everybody's business and busted it all up.


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478740
09/30/25 04:35 PM
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Honestly I couldn't see where me being directly harmed really had anything with the discussion really since most of probably weren't so I just made a bs post.

And I'm confused by the king of England owing you based off anything I said. I dont recall saying or implying that anyone in present times owes anyone anything

And I'm guessing by ur reasoning ur 185 years since you said "we" functioned just fine back then?

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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478749
09/30/25 05:02 PM
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Yep. I am in ks. My mammas family came out of TN and my dads
family rode up out of TX to settle here just prefacing my remarks before pointing out that the war was not only about slavery that was the rallying call and lighting rod but there were other reasons as history buffs here can research

Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478750
09/30/25 05:03 PM
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You can't use the very few minority corrupt situations to condemn the motives of the majority. I believe its very defendable to say the overwhelming reason for the war in the Norths eyes was slavery


In the context of a war, I can very well use occurences of Northern slave ownership while they (the North) were simultaneously condemning slavery....It's not okay to condone a little hypocrisy vs. widespread hypocrisy to the point of killing. Just to justify the means to another (non slavery) end.

Lincoln lived in Kentucky early on, as did Jefferson Davis for a while after he was born close to here in Fairview....Lincoln was well aware of what went on literally across the mason dixon river line from his early home.


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478766
09/30/25 05:47 PM
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reparations, one way air fair and do not EVER think of coming back. You michigan folks that are on here, what is the deal with letting these muslim freaks take over your towns or cities, blasting their ignorant prayers over a loud speaker early in the morning. Yall a bunch of sissies or just have assimilated. they are in YOur STREETS hollering death to america.

Re: For Savell [Re: Savell] #8478769
09/30/25 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
… my family fought for the CSA and some of them did own slaves. The slaves looked healthy and happy in the pictures….. in much better shape than a lot of the crackheads I see wandering around today lol


Used to squirrel hunt on a place over on Pin Oak Creek just outside of Hearne. There was some Confederate graves on top the hill on that place and the Daughter's of the Confederacy would still come out and tidy up the graves and put flowers and such. I can't recall the names on their graves, but some of them may have been your kinfolk Savell.

My family fought for the CSA as well. Some also fought in the Texas Revolution prior. All my stock is from the east Kentucky, Missouri, and Mississippi migrations to Texas. I'm proud of it too.


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478786
09/30/25 06:20 PM
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In that area it would be Harlan’s and Mitchell’s on moms side …. They also fought in the Texas Revolution

… the Savells and Kieth’s are from Mississippi

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Re: For Savell [Re: ks wolfer] #8478787
09/30/25 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ks wolfer
Yep. I am in ks. My mammas family came out of TN and my dads
family rode up out of TX to settle here just prefacing my remarks before pointing out that the war was not only about slavery that was the rallying call and lighting rod but there were other reasons as history buffs here can research

Oh, I have researched it.


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Re: For Savell [Re: Sheepdog1] #8478791
09/30/25 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
reparations, one way air fair and do not EVER think of coming back. You michigan folks that are on here, what is the deal with letting these muslim freaks take over your towns or cities, blasting their ignorant prayers over a loud speaker early in the morning. Yall a bunch of sissies or just have assimilated. they are in YOur STREETS hollering death to america.

You sure seem good at pointing out everyone elses problems ....what is the deal with you Texans letting illegals flood across your border for the last several decades? Yall a bunch of sissies or just assimilated? crazy

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Way cool. That property was the family place of one of my buddies. His last name is Robertson. I'll try to get the names off those graves from him. During that time, I'm sure those families knew one another.


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478793
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Midlander… I almost got hate crime charges on me over it


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Re: For Savell [Re: Chancey] #8478798
09/30/25 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Way cool. That property was the family place of one of my buddies. His last name is Robertson. I'll try to get the names off those graves from him. During that time, I'm sure those families knew one another.


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Re: For Savell [Re: Savell] #8478799
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Midlander… I almost got hate crime charges on me over it

Lol...Im not doubting you, Savell

Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478812
09/30/25 06:57 PM
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…. Them slaves worked all day and got this for free

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…. I work all day and have to pay for it lol


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Re: For Savell [Re: midlander] #8478814
09/30/25 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
reparations, one way air fair and do not EVER think of coming back. You michigan folks that are on here, what is the deal with letting these muslim freaks take over your towns or cities, blasting their ignorant prayers over a loud speaker early in the morning. Yall a bunch of sissies or just have assimilated. they are in YOur STREETS hollering death to america.

You sure seem good at pointing out everyone elses problems ....what is the deal with you Texans letting illegals flood across your border for the last several decades? Yall a bunch of sissies or just assimilated? crazy


Neither.

The carpetbaggers that came in during the 1870s after the Civil War took over pretty much everything including Texas politics. They still run all the major cities and control our politics. It's like Texas' own little AIPAC.


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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by Chancey
Way cool. That property was the family place of one of my buddies. His last name is Robertson. I'll try to get the names off those graves from him. During that time, I'm sure those families knew one another.


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That's awesome. I guarantee our ancestors knew one another and likely fought alongside each other. My mom's side was name Neighbors. All I know about them was that one of the grandfathers was an Indian Negotiator for the Texas Republic or something.

My Dad's side goes back to the Highsmith's as Great Grandma was a Highsmith. Her Grandfather was Benjamin Franklin Highsmith. All my Lewis kin is mostly buried in the Sabinal Canyon of Texas, but my moms' side was from central Texas and buried there.

Benjamin Highsmith


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478827
09/30/25 07:37 PM
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…. They likely did


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478838
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If slavery comes back into style during my lifetime

… I’m going to save up for W’Dawg .. have him in the kitchen cooking up some of that gumbo lol


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Re: For Savell [Re: warrior] #8478854
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There are a few facts not generally considered..having slaves has occurred in all societies through time..tribes of Indians kept members of other tribes as slaves, Indians kept whites as slaves. In Africa, they kept people from other tribes and a lot of those are where the ones shipped to the US came from.
One of the biggest ironies..Robert E Lee was hated because he fought for the CSA. Wasn't a slave owner. Didn't believe in it. Ulysses S Grant..regarded as the savior of the slaves and loved..was a slave owner.

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