Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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All right all right all right , got a lil time today so LOAD TESTING! So since this thing runs faster out the gap then 95% of my lil arsenal I'm just gonna go with the book and work my way up. With AR's unusual start middle or upper lower end and work my way up due to the gas system and usually shorter barrels taking a lot of juice ..but .. again then thing is running like 3600 at the staring load so So gonna start out with gonna run the 40gr vmax one , become eveyone and there mom says 35-45 GR is where it's at for .22-250....aannnd two I have three boxes for some reason lol And next for a 55gr SP for anyone who wanted to see that comparison, for ... science I guess lol ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270876-img_20251006_203112757.jpg) Running accurate 2460 and honestly... I usually really hate anything other than a stick powder ...but something about this I kinda like .. stuff meeters like dang water . ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270877-img_20251006_150638539.jpg) Not a lot of case fill though .... Wild S-D are coming I can tell already lol ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270878-img_20251006_145905646.jpg) And a close up of the powder itself ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270879-img_20251006_150720460.jpg) And like I said in one of my earlier posts worked out a customer COAl/ C TO...found where the bullet was roughly hitting the rifling , backed it up 0.003" and then some more to facilitate an ease of un chambering. So now we're like 0.006 off the lands .more jump then I like but prefer a lil jump vs possibly getting a chamber full of powder because the bullet was too close for caught in the lands and popped out ..been there done that. And loving this lee micrometer ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270880-img_20251006_150830289.jpg) And since it's going in a AR10 with. I much bullet actually int he neck....check it not much at all ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270881-img_20251006_150933893.jpg) I gave them just a light kiss of a crimp..just to keep everything in place.. tried to measure and got like .002-.003 worth of crimp .... Swear those lil red tips seated out kinda long...SEXY LOL And the set up...same as usual, bipod rear bag bench And yes I'm running the Magento. Yes I doing load development with it . I do more of the Cortina method where my velocity takes a bit bigger if a role then group size . Also testing for factory shows this gun isn't super finicky with it so there that. Anyhow I need to my numbers and if something looks really good velocity wise but not group I'll pop it off and revisit it Ok ok running straight from the mag ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270884-img_20251006_160422865.jpg) Was actually super curious if my reload would finally give me some feeding issues so racked the first one dropped the mag carefully took the round jour and inspected it...aannnd nothing I could see ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270885-img_20251006_160623383.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270887-img_20251006_160636613.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270888-img_20251006_160653939.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270889-img_20251006_160734481.jpg)
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/06/25 10:09 PM
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And shooting , shots where made in groups of five @100yd...no real rhythm or anything just squeezed when I felt good about the shot. After five rounds I'd left the bolt open and go load the next five got a consistent 3:30-4:30 ejection pattern and the recoil was STUPID light ! I mean make a no sense lol. Can see the brass at the lower right here Anyway groups ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270893-image_cropper_1759799904636.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270894-image_cropper_1759800111719.jpg) Now I don't get a velocity on the very first group because I was still getting the Chrono tuned in but with our 20" barrel we where getting roughly 250-300fps less then what the book said Soo I'd say our start load was probably 3300fps... Which I gotta say is kinda crazy that , THAT is counted as slow lol. But yeah there test rifle was a 26" bolt gun soooo ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270895-img_20251006_202857988.jpg) Also I did switch to smaller targets on the second set. Went for 2" orange stickers to 1" . Thought it might help a lil O and finally made a lil stand instead of messing with cardboard boxes lol ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270897-img_20251006_171426651.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270898-img_20251006_171433891.jpg) Also on my last two groups ..d Idk what happened with the first shots . I squeezed them off and they both just felt wrong. Like I was watching bullet impacts on all the others but those two ....idk Anyhow I tossed them as flyers but here's what the groups look like with them....who with us information what you may lol ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270899-image_cropper_1759800189190.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-270900-image_cropper_1759800262902.jpg)
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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10/07/25 10:50 AM
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Man you are tempting me. I have always wanted one of these but the bad reviews kept me away. I have over a thousand rounds of .22-250 from the Walmart clearance days and now I’m considering one again Again man I have no clue if I got a lemon or if I'm just doing something no one else is so ...idk I think....it's the mag possibly
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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Ok last deal for a while . Decided that thought there cool.... Super fast lil bitty varmint bullets don't really do much for me . I don't really do anything like shooting ground squirrels or prairie dogs soooo something a lil less.... explode_y would be better lol. And with he 1:14 twist I'm about topped out with 55gr bullets... THOUGH apparently people have luck with 60's . Anyhow my two options are ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271007-img_20251007_125107236.jpg) And decided to go with he slick slider one ... because....idk I like how non cannulated bullets look ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271008-img_20251007_125152065.jpg) Also going with the other powder I got for this project ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271009-img_20251007_125831764.jpg) Case fill is till below the shoulder a bit.. and staring out with a hight charge for starting just because where loosing an average of 300fps from book ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271011-img_20251007_125841725.jpg) And custom cbto/COAL ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271012-img_20251007_131149794.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271013-img_20251007_141814619.jpg) And same deal as before ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271016-screenshot_20251008_090507.png) Aanndd ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-34110-271017-img_20251007_233023244.jpg) I'll do ballistic x in a bit but currently wrangling my wife and someone else in New Orleans so just wait lol
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/08/25 11:28 AM
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I'll do ballistic x in a bit but currently wrangling my wife and someone else in New Orleans so just wait lol
enjoy the big easy , get some seafood and listen to some music. I bet your brother would be fun to bring there with his trombone and play pickup with some street musicians
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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10/08/25 06:05 PM
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It would be interesting to run your bore scope down that bore again and see what that gas port looks like now.
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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It would be interesting to run your bore scope down that bore again and see what that gas port looks like now. Ya know I meant to do that last night but I was so dang exhausted I forgot
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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10/09/25 09:40 PM
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Hi........My name is Wolfie..and Im an addict. Love it Wolfie. You go in depth. Very captivating indeed.
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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It seems to like a little speed, I'd push it a little harder, check the bore again, and maybe cut back on the caffein the day of the next test.  While you are doing accuracy tests, because it is a semi auto, put an extra round in the mag, on the bottom, after doing a measurement for OAL. then fire your five shot group, then measure OAL on the sixth round to compare OAL from first measurement to determine if you have enough crimp on the bullet in your recipe. You might also consider loading single rounds, in the same mag while testing, to see if your rate of fire is causing the shape of your groups to change from heat/ barrel movement. As for bullets, might check on some of the "Factory Blemish" bullets, suppliers like Midway USA sell. If you find one you like, then wait for one of there 30-50% sales and buy a couple thousand. Most blemishes are cosmetic, and you can weight sort them for consistency. Like stated above, at those velocities, they are like bombs on impact anyway. Looks like you got a good buy, can't buy much in the way of a rifle barrel for that money anymore.
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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Hi........My name is Wolfie..and Im an addict. Love it Wolfie. You go in depth. Very captivating indeed. Glad to hear  really try to give these deal a fair test. Always annoyed me reading peoples comments about stuff and its obvious they never really tired. Do these posts hoping it might help someone down the road....or at least be better reading then all the magazines and random arm chair "experts" 
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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Any thing in particular you want to use it for? I tend to use a Swift more than the 250 but generally speaking 50-55 grains are my choice. I save 40 grainers for things like the .222. You will find most varmint style bullets in the 50-55 grain range will completely disintegrate themselves within most ranges when run at the top of the velocity range for your gun. I dont have any experience using things like the 55 grain soft points that you loaded in that round but I do use it for deer crop damage out of the 223. If I'm wanting something that does come apart very rapidly Vmax's have generally fit the bill. I tend to have the best overall accuracy out of Sierra's but that could just be coincidence and its minor in the grand scheme. If I want something a little less volatile my absolute favorites are Nosler BT's. No experience with anything heavier. If I want that I swap guns
Like I said earlier on ...I'm not even sure what the heck I'll use this thing for :Di don't do the usual 22-250 deal like blowing up prairie dogs or wood chucks ....not that I have either anyway.and most of the bullets in the 30-55gr range are those "explosive types " and not the most useful for anything bigger than fox from what all the experts said so  So guess a lighter bullet a guy could use for up to deer.... Though I know A LOT of folks who run .22 center fires for deer and pigs and just use whatever they can get.... Though there neck shooting 90% of the time ... Idk like I said I WISH this was a 1:7 twist because be running. 63-90's in this sucker but o well
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10
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It seems to like a little speed, I'd push it a little harder, check the bore again, and maybe cut back on the caffein the day of the next test.  While you are doing accuracy tests, because it is a semi auto, put an extra round in the mag, on the bottom, after doing a measurement for OAL. then fire your five shot group, then measure OAL on the sixth round to compare OAL from first measurement to determine if you have enough crimp on the bullet in your recipe. You might also consider loading single rounds, in the same mag while testing, to see if your rate of fire is causing the shape of your groups to change from heat/ barrel movement. As for bullets, might check on some of the "Factory Blemish" bullets, suppliers like Midway USA sell. If you find one you like, then wait for one of there 30-50% sales and buy a couple thousand. Most blemishes are cosmetic, and you can weight sort them for consistency. Like stated above, at those velocities, they are like bombs on impact anyway. Looks like you got a good buy, can't buy much in the way of a rifle barrel for that money anymore. Yeahhhhh I've never been the best at shooting paper lol. No matter what I do unless I just in a really chill mood ..... I'm just not the best a shooting paper..steel , bottles ,dirt clods , line game . everything else different story.... That lil dot in the paper yeahhh... Anyhow you sure about the speed deal ? Was thinking I seemed to like the slower loads ...but that just the way I'm looking at it might be missing something  And glad you mentioned that ! I should have bought 100 pieces of brass to do that seating test to see what recoil would do , but only did 50.... But I need to order more anyway so we can try when I get more in  As far as the single round.... I've done it before but I have mixed feelings about that honestly because even though I'm not thinking I'm going to need to be burning though mags or something... I really feel I should be able to get a load that can keep a good five round group without much fuss you know . I don't shoot super fast with these groups, but no super slow either. And I still haven't gotten into blemished bullets or components yet , I really need to buy the possibilities with them drive me nuts lol
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