Bernard Shalom Kotzin, known as Stubby Kaye, who played General Jubilation T. Cornpone, looks nothing like my seventh cousin Lt. Gen Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson.



Keith

Keith.... didn't you say you're related to Jesus?

He's in literally many thousands of people's pedigrees, including all the current royal European ones. That's where the divine right of European kings originally came from. As I stated before, I think it's about 50/50 whether royalty had him placed in their pedigrees to control the population, after they adopted Christianity or he's legitimately there.

There's very good evidence that Joseph of Arimathea owned tin mines and fur buying outposts in Wales and Cornwall. There's Roman tax records of it. Electrospectrograph tests show that Roman tin came from Wales and Cornwall too. The Cornish have many tales of Jesus visiting with Joseph. If you search "Jesus in Cornwall" you will get over 3.8 million results. Many place names in Cornwall from, shortly after the time of Jesus, are named based on his visit and children moving there after his death. There are records that Jesus's family owned mines in Cornwall for generations before his birth. It would make sense that he would go there.

The genealogical records show that his wife, Mary Magdalene, son and daughter fled there after his death. They married in with druids. Druids were the rich upper class, not just pagan priests. Wealthy mine owners would be the same class. Mary Magdalene was wealthy and financed Jesus's mission.

Pope Gregory, worried over losing the papacy to true heirs of Jesus, demonized Mary Magdalene. Other popes also did for the same reason.

There's reams of information on it, but it's so long ago that the full truth will likely never be known. Many Christians really get upset by it.

From the titles the apostles used for Jesus, he would have had to have been married. Luke even mentions Peter being jealous of Jesus's relationship with Mary Magdalene.

Keith

You think the Jews act like gremlins and break down Ford trucks?

Keith

Ok Keith, but is He in your lineage specifically??

Yes, many times. He's in a huge number of people's lineage.

A thousand year ago, you can potentially have a billion ancestors. You don't, you have thousands of ancestors many hundreds of times or more. 2000 years ago the potential number of ancestors is massively greater. Most historical figures farther back in European history are most people of European descent's grandparents.

The reason we share over 99% of our DNA with each other is that we related to each other a great many ways. There is scientific proof of mitochondrial Eve. There is scientific proof of 2 Adams, that everyone is descended from.

Keith

What I'm getting at here is if you're related to Jesus AND Savell, doesn't that make Savell a Jew?? It may explain his change of heart if he's been researching his heritage at all beyond the deep south kinfolk.....

All the ancestors Savell had me find information on were traceable cousins of mine, so it's likely, but it would take a long time to check. I literally have more ancestors in my pedigree than I could look at in the entire remainder of my life. Most are the same people, over and over further back. Most lines don't go back very far, but many still do.

You could actually, theoretically share no close DNA with people who are closely related, like full siblings, because of the way chromosome pairs split.

I doubt there is anyone of European descent who didn't have Jewish ancestors at some point. In most cases, that DNA doesn't show on a test, because it just doesn't pass in significant amounts over generations.

Keith

Probably 4 times, but at least twice.

Keith

Angela, if you want, give me your closest, dead ancestors names, birth places and birth dates and I'll run them through too. If we have all the data, I would be surprised if we weren't cousins too, especially if you have early American, Western European ancestry.

Keith

Keith

I'm not at all agnostic. I have absolutely no doubt that God exists. I see his work literally in everything.

I overall like Christianity, but don't believe in it. I think it is a useful religion for controlling people's behavior for good. Everything in it came from earlier religions and much of it is completely illogical. I think almost no one would believe in any of the organized religions if they weren't indoctrinated into them as children. I don't think Jesus is the son of God anymore or any less than anyone else. From what he said in the Bible, I think he likely believed the same about it.

"Matthew 6:9-13
English Standard Version
9 Pray then like this:

“Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.[a]
10 Your kingdom come,
your will be done,[b]
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread,[c]
12 and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.[d]"

Keith

It depends on how far back you want to go. Caucasians and Asians started well on the path of looking like us in Turkey and the Caucus, an area often referred to as the Fertile Crescent. Our and the Asians lighter skin, cold hardiness, intelligence and ability to plan ahead, likely came from mixing with Neanderthals. As Asians moved East, they also mixed with Denisovans, besides the Neanderthals. The more Denisovan DNA an Asian has, typically the darker they are.

From there our European ancestors went out in waves, moving and getting pushed North West and gradually adapting to the lower sunlight and harsher environment. The Scythians were the main people who pushed our ancestors and who also were our ancestors, that caused them to move to North West European areas starting around 9000BC.

Keith

People are a great many times older as a species than the Bible claims they are. There definitely was one woman we are all descended from, who lived around 200,000 years ago. Homosapiens are actually much older than that. There was likely some sort of disaster that shrunk the population down to just that 1 woman. Scientific evidence supports the idea that there were 2 men that survived a similar event, later on, to pass their genes on. Humanity has almost died out multiple times.

Keith

Keith, you didn't mention cromagna man he showed up about 150,000 years ago on the west coast of Europe
You have a decent grasp of the human genome project, but you are missing a few important pieces
Why are many Chinese gods depicted with blue eyes? And Chinese are not know for having blue eyes
Just food for thought

Well if you look at the human gene, I'm related to most of y'all on here.

Never researched my lineage, buncha bootleggers and cattle rustlers likely didn't leave much of a trace I figure.

The birth places of civilization are from, Mesopotamia - Tigirs-Uphrates river valley, Ancient Egypt - Nile river, Ancient India, and China Huang Yellow river valley. From the man dispersed out. Man created or evolved? I'll stay created with civilization developing there after. Domestication of animals and agriculture leading to larger populations.

What about the pre diluvian races?

A little Jewish music for this thread...