Re: Israel
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These last posts have really turned this thread around for the better. It was just dumb at the start.  … Henry ford was antisemitic… he claimed Jews were a parasitical race of people out to exploit European civilizations after the heavy lifting was already done … I believe that’s why his trucks continue to break down today ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-105-271270-img_7929.jpeg)
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Re: Israel
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…. I’ll never watch braveheart or the patriot again after this ! ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/10/full-105-271272-img_7930.jpeg)
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Re: Israel
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Keith.... didn't you say you're related to Jesus? He's in literally many thousands of people's pedigrees, including all the current royal European ones. That's where the divine right of European kings originally came from. As I stated before, I think it's about 50/50 whether royalty had him placed in their pedigrees to control the population, after they adopted Christianity or he's legitimately there. There's very good evidence that Joseph of Arimathea owned tin mines and fur buying outposts in Wales and Cornwall. There's Roman tax records of it. Electrospectrograph tests show that Roman tin came from Wales and Cornwall too. The Cornish have many tales of Jesus visiting with Joseph. If you search "Jesus in Cornwall" you will get over 3.8 million results. Many place names in Cornwall from, shortly after the time of Jesus, are named based on his visit and children moving there after his death. There are records that Jesus's family owned mines in Cornwall for generations before his birth. It would make sense that he would go there. The genealogical records show that his wife, Mary Magdalene, son and daughter fled there after his death. They married in with druids. Druids were the rich upper class, not just pagan priests. Wealthy mine owners would be the same class. Mary Magdalene was wealthy and financed Jesus's mission. Pope Gregory, worried over losing the papacy to true heirs of Jesus, demonized Mary Magdalene. Other popes also did for the same reason. There's reams of information on it, but it's so long ago that the full truth will likely never be known. Many Christians really get upset by it. From the titles the apostles used for Jesus, he would have had to have been married. Luke even mentions Peter being jealous of Jesus's relationship with Mary Magdalene. Keith
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Re: Israel
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These last posts have really turned this thread around for the better. It was just dumb at the start.  … Henry ford was antisemitic… he claimed Jews were a parasitical race of people out to exploit European civilizations after the heavy lifting was already done … I believe that’s why his trucks continue to break down today You think the Jews act like gremlins and break down Ford trucks? Keith
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Re: Israel
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Ok Keith, but is He in your lineage specifically??
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Re: Israel
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… not at all … I think Henry Ford thought that Jews were bad for western civilization and culture therefore his vehicles were cursed
…. Everyone knows the Jews have our best interest in mind
… they toil daily to promote the values that ensure a healthy and lasting society… always have
… they should be welcomed and praised for the progress seen today
… shalom my brother
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Re: Israel
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Ok Keith, but is He in your lineage specifically?? Yes, many times. He's in a huge number of people's lineage. A thousand year ago, you can potentially have a billion ancestors. You don't, you have thousands of ancestors many hundreds of times or more. 2000 years ago the potential number of ancestors is massively greater. Most historical figures farther back in European history are most people of European descent's grandparents. The reason we share over 99% of our DNA with each other is that we related to each other a great many ways. There is scientific proof of mitochondrial Eve. There is scientific proof of 2 Adams, that everyone is descended from. Keith
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Re: Israel
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What I'm getting at here is if you're related to Jesus AND Savell, doesn't that make Savell a Jew?? It may explain his change of heart if he's been researching his heritage at all beyond the deep south kinfolk.....
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Re: Israel
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What I'm getting at here is if you're related to Jesus AND Savell, doesn't that make Savell a Jew?? It may explain his change of heart if he's been researching his heritage at all beyond the deep south kinfolk..... …. Nothings beyond the realm of possibility…. I’m supposedly French Irish … but that’s just science lol
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Re: Israel
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What I'm getting at here is if you're related to Jesus AND Savell, doesn't that make Savell a Jew?? It may explain his change of heart if he's been researching his heritage at all beyond the deep south kinfolk..... All the ancestors Savell had me find information on were traceable cousins of mine, so it's likely, but it would take a long time to check. I literally have more ancestors in my pedigree than I could look at in the entire remainder of my life. Most are the same people, over and over further back. Most lines don't go back very far, but many still do. You could actually, theoretically share no close DNA with people who are closely related, like full siblings, because of the way chromosome pairs split. I doubt there is anyone of European descent who didn't have Jewish ancestors at some point. In most cases, that DNA doesn't show on a test, because it just doesn't pass in significant amounts over generations. Keith
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Re: Israel
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…. That’s not the traditional teaching
… what scripture teaches this ?
… you probably typed it in your previous post but it was tltr
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Re: Israel
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Ok Keith, but is He in your lineage specifically?? Yes, many times. He's in a huge number of people's lineage. A thousand year ago, you can potentially have a billion ancestors. You don't, you have thousands of ancestors many hundreds of times or more. 2000 years ago the potential number of ancestors is massively greater. Most historical figures farther back in European history are most people of European descent's grandparents. The reason we share over 99% of our DNA with each other is that we related to each other a great many ways. There is scientific proof of mitochondrial Eve. There is scientific proof of 2 Adams, that everyone is descended from. Keith … yet you’re agnostic? .. please explain … my doubt comes from all man mankind coming from two people … European people didn’t come onto the scene until much later due to the climate at the time was my understanding?
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Re: Israel
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I'm not at all agnostic. I have absolutely no doubt that God exists. I see his work literally in everything.
I overall like Christianity, but don't believe in it. I think it is a useful religion for controlling people's behavior for good. Everything in it came from earlier religions and much of it is completely illogical. I think almost no one would believe in any of the organized religions if they weren't indoctrinated into them as children. I don't think Jesus is the son of God anymore or any less than anyone else. From what he said in the Bible, I think he likely believed the same about it.
"Matthew 6:9-13 English Standard Version 9 Pray then like this:
“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.[a] 10 Your kingdom come, your will be done,[b] on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread,[c] 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.[d]"
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Re: Israel
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…. Where did the European people come from in your opinion Kieth ?
… history shows they quickly conquered the earth .. but where did they come from
… I value your opinion is why I’m asking
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