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What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a #8487122
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They could care less about their law abiding citizens. All they want to do is fight for illegals and free handouts

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487130
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Originally Posted by CajunMan
They could care less about their law abiding citizens. All they want to do is fight for illegals and free handouts

They are not leaders. They are elected officials. You get what you vote for.

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487133
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I know trappers that voted for these people.


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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487152
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It’s because they are buying votes,, plain and simple. Why do you really think they are outraged about illegals being rounded up? It’s votes going bye bye.


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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487170
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Illinois is controlled by 7 counties that have the population the rest are red no different than Minnesota or New York

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487204
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Illinois biggest problem is chicago.i hope Bailey beats pritzker this time,can't believe he didn't beat him last time.

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: WI Outdoors] #8487210
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by CajunMan
They could care less about their law abiding citizens. All they want to do is fight for illegals and free handouts

They are not leaders. They are elected officials. You get what you vote for.



Dang it little buddy. Stop doing that. Making me agree with you.


They are elected representatives. They are employees of the people and should be treated as such.


Unfortunately just like here. We are controlled by big city population centers filled with morons. Illinois and New York are great states if you take out Chicago and New York City.


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487241
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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487328
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Simple, they are communist


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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487333
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Keep in mind not all of NY is downstate.

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: 080808] #8487353
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Originally Posted by 080808
Keep in mind not all of NY is downstate.

Correct just like all Illinois is not Chicago and Minnesota is not all the twin cities

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487358
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Far too many sheeple beleive the lie that the political parasites are our leaders. So that's how they act, as rulers not representatives. I think Jefferson said something along the lines of a government that fears the people is good and a government that people fear is bad, I know didn't get it quite right but it was close. That and most folks really are too stupid to be voting on things that affect us all, if it only hurt them then fine, but it doesn't

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: WI Outdoors] #8487394
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
They are not leaders. They are elected officials. You get what you vote for.


This is the answer.

Yes, most of the state is red, not blue,blue, but that's land area, not people. People vote, not land. The majority of voters in those states are blue, and so that's who wins elections. Pretty simple.

Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: CajunMan] #8487420
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It's about money in Illinois. And it's not just one things either. I was a member of DC 30 out of Aurora IL for a few years. Right before Obama was president the leaders or DC 30 would joke about our insurance being so cheap because of the Mexican's were paying for it. There were over 14 thousand Mexicans - all illegal - in DC 30 then. The union treated them like slaves. They imported them, SOLD them a drivers license and social security card, and rented apartments to them. They worked them till the weather got cold and those guy would go home. They would come back in the spring but you know what/ They stayed gone too long and now all their benefits we magically absorbed into DC 30 and they had to pay a fine to get back to work. I have a picture of Obama standing at the copy machine in DC 30's office with the president of the union and two Mexican painters. Right there - doing the math for 14,000 Mexicans was a gain of over $21,000.000. So what is it now? The unions are super corrupt, they pay the mayors off, they pay the representatives off, they par the aldermen off. the governor is in on it. When the democrat representatives ran away from Texas a couple months ago and came to Illinois- guess where they went for a photo op? District Council 30 Aurora's Office. Even the hospitals in Chicago pay people off. It's huge, It's everywhere. If you need a permit to build and can't seem to get it passed all you have to do is pay something to the person at the counter. The term '' I know a guy'' is alive and well in Chicago. It's democrats. It's always been democrats. There needs to be a house cleaning and it might get bad for Chicago but it needs to be done. The Governor here is also actively trying to get militias made illegal in Illinois. Which we can have according to our constitution.
The rest of Illinois is mostly happy people who live in rural communities just like in Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa - all the same. There's great trapping, hunting and fishing here and it's not crowded. We just have these rotten politicians in place. What governor threatens federal workers?
What governor gets ''incredibly lucky'' and wins over a million dollars at blackjack? Oh - and now after two years and people finding it out decides he's going to donate it all.

PS. Elections don't matter here- even the dog catcher elections are rigged so peoples kids get the job. When you try to get someone in office or elected they stack the deck and change the rules. When thy change the rules it's legal because they wrote the rules. When you speak up your property tax suddenly goes through the roof- Mine just went up 67% this year. No wonder people go nuts and do bad things.

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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: WI Outdoors] #8487422
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by CajunMan
They could care less about their law abiding citizens. All they want to do is fight for illegals and free handouts

They are not leaders. They are elected officials. You get what you vote for.

Exactly


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Re: What’s wrong with leaders in Illinois, New York a [Re: Pawnee] #8487449
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Simple, they are communist


technically they are more like the "brownshirts" the SA

if you are familiar with the brownshirts they were a Nazi paramilitary group that lead to Hitlers rise to power , they were tasked with protecting Nazi party meetings while disrupting other political party meetings and harassing Jews.

after 1933 when Hitler was elected to power most were done away with the night of the long knives June 30th 1934 , the Brownshirt leaders and the men that had swelled it's ranks to around 2 million believed in the German worker and in labor and were seen as too communist by Hitler as they were mainly comprised of out of work laborers due to the great depression.
there was a labor dispute where they SA leader had come out strongly in support of the worker.
Hitler wanted the labor issue over and the businessmen to get to producing for his needs.
he put down the labor and the SS purged much of the leadership of the SA and enough men that the rest fell in line for fear of death.

similar story in China and USSR and other communist take overs.

get the disgruntled worker to lead the charge or in the case of China the PLA people Liberation Army , then when they look like they have it wrapped up steal the power form them and make a new communism based on what an elite few want which isn't really communism at all , but what we know as places calling something that isn't communism , communism.

I think it was a Romanian author who had a term that didn't quite translate to English but "Useful Idiots" is close , those people who fight for the change and are purged nearly as the change looks like it is going to happen so that the people using them all along could seize power.


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I know the problem with Illinois is Chicago, but I just can’t believe people are that stupid. I have a friend who lives in Niles, been friends with him for o er 50 years, his entire family is top notch people. The stories he tells me of the ignorance up there is amazing

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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
I know trappers that voted for these people.


yep.

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