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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Big Sam]
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Yesterday at 05:02 PM
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Nova Scotia
TheCarpenter
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Gosh. I enjoy so many different rifles and cartridges. I have a 3030 henry with irons for my brush hunting. I use a scoped savage 99 featherweight in 308 with see through ring mounts for if im going between fields and forests mix. If I'm hunting longer fields or just want the confidence I use my tikka in 243. I can stack dimes with that thing. Took a spike today with a 50. cal muzzleloader.
And for Rob I do plan on bowhunting early season at some point. I actually got into hand carving my own self bow (I think it's called a self bow?, there was a specific design it was made after, I can always find out) out of white ash. My draw weight was too low so just fun to shoot. Made entirely with hand tools no power tools. I enjoy hand tool woodworking. eventually i'll make and fletch my own arrows too. But for now I just thump game with a boomstick ! Do you happen to have a picture of the bow? Sounds cool. I was looking at potential staves in the woods today. It's still hanging up covered in dust in my barn somewhere. I'll take it down at some point Sam and see if I can figure out the inbox system and send you some pictures and info on it.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: foxhunter52]
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Yesterday at 08:16 PM
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Nova Scotia
TheCarpenter
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Sounds great Carpenter! Thank you! Very welcome! killed deer with .222, 22-250, .220 swift, .243, ,270, 30-30, 7mm, 30-06, and a few with my truck and wife's car. It's tough to pick a caliber isn't it? Especially once you get into reloading it's like a whole 'nother rabbit hole.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Big Sam]
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Yesterday at 08:43 PM
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Vernal, Utah, USA
Dan Barnhurst
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I have not shot a deer with a rifle for years. I shot the first 10-15 with a Model 88 Winchester 308. Then I bought a Remington 700 22-250 for coyotes and prairie dogs. I got so confident with my abilities with that rifle I used it to cleanly kill a lot of deer with. And it killed them as fast as any big magnum would. Bullet placement is more important than caliber choice in my opinion. If I wanted to kill a deer with a rifle today I would probably reach past several rifles in the safe to grab that 22-250.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: humptulips]
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Allan Minear
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Any rifle that you can shoot accurately is what you should use , I like my .284 Winchester with a .25-06 and a .270 close behind .
Your results may vary ha ha ! Allan, My Dad shot a .284 in a model 88 Winchester. I'm giving it to my nephew. Hope for a few more deer to fall to it. I'm sure he will enjoy it a great deal ! I've got the Model 100 and then a custom built on a old short Sako action what a tack driver ! The 139 gr Hornady BTSP is a favorite of mine to shoot !
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Allan
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Big Sam]
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Wisconsin
Scott__aR
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When I was a teenager, my dad always said the 30-06 would kill anything in North America. So he gave me his 3006 to carry deer hunting and he used his Savage 30-30 bolt. As I now think about it, humm?? Anyway, so when I got my first rifle it was a 30-06. Over the years I've used any number of calibers in different types of actions from 17 rem to 458 Lott.
Today at the ripe age of almost 70, I carry a 308, titanium action in synthetic dress deer hunting. With age and bad shoulders, weight and recoil become issues; I'm thinking about an upgrade to 30-30 or small 6.5mm.
Another thought in the back of my mind is, what is the available of commercial ammo, especially with the ammo issues of the past years.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Scott__aR]
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Providence Farm
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When I was a teenager, my dad always said the 30-06 would kill anything in North America. So he gave me his 3006 to carry deer hunting and he used his Savage 30-30 bolt. As I now think about it, humm?? Anyway, so when I got my first rifle it was a 30-06. Over the years I've used any number of calibers in different types of actions from 17 rem to 458 Lott.
Today at the ripe age of almost 70, I carry a 308, titanium action in synthetic dress deer hunting. With age and bad shoulders, weight and recoil become issues; I'm thinking about an upgrade to 30-30 or small 6.5mm.
Another thought in the back of my mind is, what is the available of commercial ammo, especially with the ammo issues of the past years. Ammo availability is a real issue but easily dealt with. Find your load you like and buy 2x more than you will shoot in your suspected time frame. Few people shoot 10 rounds out of their deer guns a year after the I got a new rifle wears off. So figure X $ worth of ammo figured into the price of the new gun along with optics and rings solves that problem. Don't tell anyone you have a stock of ammo you will be blamed for the next shortage by those that dont prepare and only buy a box or two when they run out. I have enough in several cal to last me the rest of my life and well I to the kids for deer hunting. That's not including all the components for loading more. But im like a squirrel with ammo. I see a good price and buy it. Sometimes I dont even have anything to shoot that caliber in.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Big Sam]
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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at my house there is no differnce between 308 and 30-06 there is typically a 50-200fps difference between the same projectile in 308 vs 30-06
308 worked so well I figured why beat myself and the semi auto 30-06 rifles I had up
most of the 308s are bolts , all my 30-06 are semi auto it just happened that way. I had a bolt 30-06 but I sold it.
it takes a couple grains more powder to compensate for the case being bigger but they are nearly the same
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Big Sam]
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Here's A debate..........
I don't believe in the slow calibers like a 30-30 being superior at being a brush gun.
Slow moving objects are way more easily deflected from their path than a fast moving one.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: hippie]
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Blackduck Minnesota
Big Sam
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Here's A debate..........
I don't believe in the slow calibers like a 30-30 being superior at being a brush gun.
Slow moving objects are way more easily deflected from their path than a fast moving one. I tend to agree with you hippie. I don't shoot the 30-30 because I think it'll bust the brush better, I shoot it because it handles so quick on the close and fast shots. I have always been tempted to set up some targets in thick brush and see if there is any difference in deflection between say a 270 or 06 vs something big and slow like the 45-70 or the 416. I don't shoot through brush unless a critter is already wounded and I figure he needs another round, and that rarely happens.
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Re: Deer cartridge debate.
[Re: Wright Brothers]
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1 hour ago
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eastern WV
Ridge Runner1960
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eastern WV
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Good stuff guys, 250-3000 anyone?
I have a 700 action that will fit Whelen.
As a kid I stared that one down in the load book.
have took 1 , an 8 pt. buck with a 250, 100 gr nosler ballistic tip at 2850 fps. killed him graveyard dead, he never kicked.
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