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Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: Manfred] #8491035
10/23/25 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Manfred
The video states that drug-related costs have fallen by 18% because a lot of money is saved on court proceedings and prison sentences.


You do realize you can't compare Portugal to the US, right ? Portugal is comparative to Indiana or Maine.


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8491205
10/24/25 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt

You do realize you can't compare Portugal to the US, right ? Portugal is comparative to Indiana or Maine.



In fact, I believe Portugal is one of the best comparisons between the US and Europe. The population is concentrated in the coastal metropolitan area. There's a lot of immigration from South America and connections to South America through colonial history. There are numerous smuggling routes into the country from South America and Africa. And these measures work despite the open borders and freedom of residence within the EU.

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: Manfred] #8491219
10/24/25 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Manfred
I have never heard of a country that has been able to live in peace when it has been targeted by the US's greed for raw materials.
The same game as always: regime change to loot the country.

Um, of course to bring democracy, to fight the evil Russians or the drug dealers...


A good read is "confessions of an economic hitman"
by John Perkins.

He was involved in alot of this and spells out how the US did this stuff.

To believe that the US is "total innocent" is burying your head in the sand.

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491243
10/24/25 05:57 AM
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Great book!!

A must read

Was actually going to mention it in the over priced beef thread,,,,, in regards to recent events in Argentina

It’s to bad more Canadians haven’t read that book

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Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491390
10/24/25 11:15 AM
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'The US has announced the deployment of its troops to Trinidad and Tobago for alleged extraordinary military exercise'


Just of the coast of Venezuela.

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491426
10/24/25 12:51 PM
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'U.S. Defense Secretary Hegseth orders deployment of Gerald Ford aircraft carrier strike group to SOUTHCOM area'

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491446
10/24/25 01:52 PM
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We that elected Trump did so because the last whoever was running things was going to destroy our country with unbridled, illegal immigration that's prevalent in Europe.
Along with the illegals walking across our border were drugs in their historical numbers that he also said had to stop.

My partner in business had a boy that died from these drugs, A boy you would never think being he was raised right but somehow got caught up in it. Anyhow, I'm not naive enough to think this can be completely eliminated but hopeful for other families that these drugs get scarce enough it saves a significant number of our kids.

As for resources, been fighting for them since man figured out what they were but I'm not totally convinced that is this President's reason. Change of regime for sure but not a take over of the country.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: Manfred] #8491457
10/24/25 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Manfred
'U.S. Defense Secretary Hegseth orders deployment of Gerald Ford aircraft carrier strike group to SOUTHCOM area'


War Secretary? I Thought this got changed?


Who is John Galt?
Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491458
10/24/25 02:07 PM
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Well at least the military wasn't ordered to kill some family guy loading water into his car by the previous imbeciles.

Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491477
10/24/25 03:11 PM
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I did notvote for someone so they could give billions to another country like Argentinia we already do that with Israel.

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Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491528
10/24/25 04:20 PM
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For what it’s worth, “we” the people are cannon fodder for politicians who can’t say no to war related money going to their districts. WE the people get our parts blown off unless politician’s kids are on the firing line losing theirs. Money and resources speak the words politicians understand. It’s hard to believe lifetime politicians represent us when their whole working lives are spent looking for deep-pocket donations.

This has nothing to do with preserving the honor of America. Violating the sovereignty of Venezuela has nothing to do with us. It’s just a political attempt to gain resource favor…at the cost of American lives.


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Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491548
10/24/25 04:51 PM
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"Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family."

That's been done already....maybe a fisherman is crewing, but he ain't fishing....You see those 3 big engines on the back? No fisherman can afford one of those.

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: gcs] #8491587
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Originally Posted by gcs
"Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family."

That's been done already....maybe a fisherman is crewing, but he ain't fishing....You see those 3 big engines on the back? No fisherman can afford one of those.


Exactly.


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Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8491599
10/24/25 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Originally Posted by gcs
"Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family."

That's been done already....maybe a fisherman is crewing, but he ain't fishing....You see those 3 big engines on the back? No fisherman can afford one of those.


Exactly.


Fishermen would stop when ordered to too. They wouldn't run like the drug dealers do.

Keith

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491622
10/24/25 07:16 PM
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Next time I’m fishing in the Caribbean,,,,,

I’m going too make sure the guide NEVER drives really fast, north

Re: CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela? [Re: foxkidd44] #8491695
10/24/25 08:50 PM
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We have military “groups” whose sole purpose of existence is South America. So yeah, we have forces, known and unknown, everywhere down there. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the boats becoming fish food is the result of boots on the ground intel.

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