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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Law Dog]
 #8493728 10/28/25 01:47 PM
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if we had a 3-4 month gun deer season in WI waiting for the right buck would be different. that tends to be more of an archery season 3 1/2 months 
 when you have 9 days and generally you have to be home in 3-4 because Thanksgiving is Thursday of deer season
 
 put 700K people in the woods opening weekend and you would have to have a mighty big private tract to not notice a change in deer behavior opening weekend.
 
 America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Lugnut]
 #8493736 10/28/25 02:00 PM
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I love this thread!
 "Meat" hunters rule the day on most public lands....then complain because they never see a good buck.....lol
 
 For you professed meat hunters: if an antlered buck and a doe is standing side by side....which will you shoot? Yeah...I thought so....
You’ll never hear me complain about not seeing a good buck. I really don’t care if I never shoot another nice one. Give me a nice fat doe every time and I’ll be happy. I’ll ask the same question of you professional trophy hunters, if an antlered buck and a doe is standing side-by-side.. which will you shoot? Yeah… I thought so…Usually, neither - unless the antlered buck is a really nice one.  I have probably already passed six or seven legal bucks. I dont know how many does - I cant tell them apart. Saturday evening, hunting five different locations on my 350 acres, between the five locations, we saw 52 deer. We killed 1 nine pt, and five 8 pts - all but two of the hunters were 15 years old or younger. A dozen legal (3 pt or better on one side) bucks were passed - and a bunch of does. We killed one of our six or so bigger target bucks. |  |  |  
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
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 #8493737 10/28/25 02:04 PM
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Need to come further south, and there's no restrictions here.Yeah...down here in the deep Southern US most private tract hunters voluntarily have antler restrictions. Nobody wants to kill a small buck....everybody wants to kill a big buck. State requires one of our two buck season limit to have 4pts on one side over an inch or a 15" inside spread. The other buck can have any size antlers. We need to have a reg change that allows a 3rd buck (with antler restrictions) to be killed but only after you've killed 3 does and game check them....then a 3rd buck slot will appear on your e-license. Our populations are high enough that meat gathering is not much of an issue.Only way the three doe thing works is with a manual check of the does. Otherwise a lot of folks are gonna be checking three does via the app. |  |  |  
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
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 #8493753 10/28/25 02:28 PM
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I think the online ck system is probably not anywhere near accurate. Not sure the only folks checking are those who take their deer to a commercial processor and must have evidence of being checkedI don’t think many of the processors around my neck of the woods check to make sure the deer has been checked already |  |  |  
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: sportsman94]
 #8493766 10/28/25 02:58 PM
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I think the online ck system is probably not anywhere near accurate. Not sure the only folks checking are those who take their deer to a commercial processor and must have evidence of being checkedI don’t think many of the processors around my neck of the woods check to make sure the deer has been checked already Ours make sure. GW will check them from time to time |  |  |  
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Law Dog]
 #8493770 10/28/25 03:03 PM
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Makes you wonder how many bucks get left to rot because the hunter thought they were shooting an eight point which was the minimum number of points and found out it was a six point after they shot it? 
 If removing guns saves just one life it's worth it. Then if deporting illegals saves one life is that worth it?
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
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 #8493774 10/28/25 03:08 PM
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I hate the app or telecheck.     I miss the physical check in stations.   I was young when they had them, but a lot of interesting stories and nice deer you get to see.     Once seen a goat, the check in guy just shook his head didnt say a word and let the guy do it.  thats a problem for someone with a badge , take down the plate number , you have name and license info , make the report when you go back in the building and let it be their problem. we had them till a few years ago , stopped needing to go to one in about 2013 but still were some physical locations for Amish ,old folks and such to go to for a while maybe even still is some don't know. 
 America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
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 #8493784 10/28/25 03:27 PM
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The point restriction was removed from our county last year after having it for close to 20 years. I liked it. The only thing I didn’t like was it prevents from removing bad genetics from the herd. Like no brow tines, or bucks that never became more than a 6-pt. 
 We used to use the kids during youth season to cull bucks but they quickly learned to be more patient and wait for the better bucks.
Then you had no worries. Can’t remove “bad” genetics in a wild herd and culling has almost zero effect. Remember half the dna comes from the doe also. So she could be passing on those traits also. You would need a captive herd and monitor each doe’s offspring. Lots of work. 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Law Dog]
 #8493789 10/28/25 03:31 PM
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We have point restrictions of three points in Maryland. One of the three bucks (with extra tag) has to meet the point requirement. 
 In Delaware we get two antlered deer per season. One quality buck tag that has to be 15” outside spread, basically past the ears. And one is hunters choice. Can be any deer you feel like shooting.
 
 If I shoot a buck, I limit myself to only one quality deer per season, per state I hunt. I like to leave the carry handles to the folks who enjoy them. So I focus on crop damage does mostly.
 
 I will say, that’s my opinion and until someone buys your license for you, they can’t tell you what to shoot or not shoot. As long as it’s legal and you have a tag for it. Send it if it makes you happy.
 
 
 Just be safe out there and always wear a fall arrest harness when using a tree stand.
 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: salemtrapper]
 #8493803 10/28/25 03:51 PM
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Our acorns are hit and miss here.  Had 2 does in the yard yesterday feeding on small post oak, but that's about I have. How's the crop in your hunting area?Lots of does and scrub bucks mostly this is probably the best year for a chance for a good buck that we have had in several years, seen groups of 14 does in one place and 10 in another spot if they get hot it will be interesting. 
 Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
 
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Law Dog]
 #8493817 10/28/25 04:17 PM
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I'm not much into shooting does anymore let the grandkids shoot the does.I shoot bucks big and small. 
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: sportsman94]
 #8493819 10/28/25 04:20 PM
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I think the online ck system is probably not anywhere near accurate. Not sure the only folks checking are those who take their deer to a commercial processor and must have evidence of being checkedI don’t think many of the processors around my neck of the woods check to make sure the deer has been checked already Georgia does not require a deer to be game checked if left at a processor or a taxidermist. We hashed this out on a statewide level when game check was first initiated and decided it is the responsibility of the hunter to ensure game check not the processor. Processors do not need to get the confirmation number. 
 Thank God For Your Blessings!
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|  Re: 4 point rule in MO
[Re: Trapper7]
 #8493821 10/28/25 04:31 PM
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Makes you wonder how many bucks get left to rot because the hunter thought they were shooting an eight point which was the minimum number of points and found out it was a six point after they shot it?
Most of the APR’s are three or four points on one side - so you dont have to count all the points. Has never happened to any of my hunters in 30 years - and I am including a bunch of young kids. If a 12 yr old can count points correctly, so should an adult. When our state started an APR, all you heard was excuses and complaints - I was one of them. It took about five years for the apr to show results. 8 pt bucks started becoming fairly common after five years - then bigger eight points. We were soon harvesting as many bucks as we did before apr’s - they were just twice as big as they used to be. |  |  |  
 
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