Guys, I tried googling this before I asked this,,,I couldn’t get it answered to my satisfaction.
I also don’t fully understand executive orders and what the extent they can go.
I know the whole food stamp thing is hotly debated…and I’m not taking sides..
But can the president order the snap program to be continued?
I’m saying this because I’m concerned about the potential for riots… can the president order the program to continue to avoid them??

I don’t want this post to go into political mud slinging .. not the purpose of this post.

Sure President Trump can do that.Trouble is instead of a program to give poor people food stamps it has become a program to give people who refuse to work food stamps.

EOs can set how a department does it's business. They can't conflict with laws or the constitution

How many people are on snap?

42 million-ish

As crazy as this answer sounds with the nation being 33 trillion plus dollars in debt, the President can only use an executive order to spend money if the money is there and allocated. Only the Congress can authorize appropriations and budgets. President Trump is paying the troops with money already allocated for defense and is in effect borrowing it from the programs is was supposed to go to in order to cover payroll. So if there was a pot of money in USDA that he could tap into and "move" money around he could do so theoretically but since the SNAP program is the biggest part of USDAs budget I doubt there is a pot of money over in the corner that can be borrowed from to pay the SNAP payment.

Roughly 25% of the residents in the county I live in are receiving SNAP benefits, so if they don't come it will be a huge impact. I anticipate shop lifting and theft but don't really expect rioting, but I live in a rural area. There is no doubt in more urban areas there will be rioting which makes no sense to me because you go burn the grocery store whose owner has nothing to do with the budget debacle and then next month or the month after when this finally gets straightened out you have nowhere to buy groceries because you burned it in protest. Then you are on the news complaining that there is nowhere to buy groceries in your neighborhood and you don't have a car so you have to take the bus and try to manage all your groceries on the trip home.

It seems that the Democrats in the Senate have largely decided this is the hill they die on we will just have to wait and see what happens and hold on for the ride.

SNAP has a contingency fund the trump could authorize, but he won't. This fact was even on the USDA website up until a few days ago, but was conveniently removed once this whole thing became an issue. I'm all for get my rid of all welfare, but political games like this are beyond stupid, as well.

Info

From my 1440 Daily Digest:

SNAP Funding Status
A federal judge yesterday suggested she will order the Agriculture Department to tap emergency funds for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Funding for the program, colloquially referred to as food stamps, is poised to lapse tomorrow for the first time since its creation in 1964 amid the federal government shutdown.

Democratic officials from 25 states and Washington, DC, sued the Agriculture Department Tuesday for refusing to tap into a roughly $5B contingency fund to sustain SNAP. The Trump administration says the fund is intended for specific emergencies, such as natural disasters, and is insufficient to deliver full November benefits. SNAP costs roughly $8B per month, providing about $190 average monthly payments to nearly 42 million people (see more data). During previous government shutdowns, administrations have issued grace periods and special funding transfers to ensure uninterrupted benefits.

Republican and Democratic governors have announced initiatives to support SNAP recipients.

Wife read to me a post on FB where a lady had gone in for a pedicure and manicure. She said there were two ladies in there having a perm, pedicure, manicure, new fake eyelashes and a facial. They were saying they were concerned that their food stamps might be cut out and after that would their disability payments be next?

How many tattoos did they have and were they obese?

So in the article, the contingency funds were reallocated due to the covid shutdown. This constitutes an emergency.

The democrats holding out to not fund SNAP so they can get more money to spend to give free healthcare to illegal aliens IS NOT an emergency.

This is political because the democrats think they need to get funding for their future voting base. Raw and disgusting politics at its worst. But as usual, half or more of the American people are too stupid and big enough suckers that they accept the crap they are spoon fed by the media.

The democrats want more money to fund illegal alien healthcare. The republicans will not allow this. I do not see a problem with this.

Sheesh!!

Context, context, context!!!

READ MY SIGNATURE!!!

Right!
There are not enough red vote people in the SNAP or Wellfare system for POTUS to worry about. If they choose to have a food riot. Just another good reason/ Proof.. to send in guard or Military. Gesh! It's all just really that siGosh!

Mac

Mac has a point. Red voters tend to be productive people with jobs. Pay their own way and don't need welfare.

Why do you think most the people on snap and welfare are blue voters? Is it because the are disabled, old and no funds, just a sorry lot? To me if any one riots they should be made to know they should have stayed home. There has to be rule of law even for blue voters.

texas and florida red statest hathave high snap users.

These are contingency funds we are talking about.

Contingency- a future event or circumstance which is possible but cannot be predicted with certainty:
"a detailed contract that attempts to provide for all possible contingencies"

a provision for an unforeseen event or circumstance:
"a contingency reserve"

an incidental expense:
"allow an extra fifteen percent in the budget for contingencies"

the absence of certainty in events:
"the island's public affairs can be invaded by contingency"

the absence of necessity; the fact of being so without having to be so.

So the definition of contingency is basically an unforeseen and uncertain event. This shut down IS NOT a contingency. It is happening due to controllable and chosen circumstances. It is not an emergency.

I heard a possibility today that made al lot of sense. The democrats are holding out til after the elections this November. Then they will all of a sudden find common ground. In other words, they are willing to let people suffer for politics sake. Three democrats are willing to vote with republicans. Only need five more. Won't happen.

Let it ride!!! Great ammo for next November.

What needs to happen is that people, that truly need help, get it and that people who are capable of supporting themselves, that need motivated to be self sufficient, are.

Keith

Personally I don't think there should be any straight up welfare of any kind. If you can work , then work. As for SNAP and who feeds the hungry. I've always thought that was the churches job. I donate my time and money where I choose.


Mac

Let's get into the Time Machine. Let's go back to October 5, 2013. What a speech!!! A mere 12 years ago!!

I believe Trump asked the judge for specific instructions how to legally use the money, which is the problem right now with using that money is that it can’t be legally done.