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Iowa Cat #8496750
11/02/25 02:23 PM
11/02/25 02:23 PM
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Was in northern Iowa pheasant hunting. Also did some thermal night hunting. Friends son had a bunch of trail cameras pictures of this cat. We tried to get him in but never did. Got home and he sent me a picture. Neighbor got him a mile from where we were trying to call him in. Not protected he said and shoot on site. Hopefully he can get some information off off the collar and pass it on. Northern Iowa close to Spencer [Linked Image]

Last edited by saskbone; 11/02/25 04:46 PM.
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496792
11/02/25 03:22 PM
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Is that a cougar?

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496822
11/02/25 04:02 PM
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Nebraska collar is what I heard a few days ago.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496854
11/02/25 05:01 PM
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Yes that's a cougar/mountain lion what ever you want to call it. I know we've got one near where I hunt, it's been seen on game cameras. Last year I talked to a guy whose son is the one that got it on camera. He let the DNR know and they are aware. There are a lot of cattle and cow/calf herds in that area including the land I hunt on so I'm pretty sure I know how that'll go if it's seen by the right people.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496928
11/02/25 06:25 PM
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Why would you kill it if it wasn't doing any harm? We had one shot here in Eastern Iowa and the person who shot it received a LOT of grief. The cat was asleep on a branch sunny himself and the deer hunter shot it as a trophy for himself. Lots of bad vibe towards the shooter.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: slue-foot] #8496931
11/02/25 06:27 PM
11/02/25 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by slue-foot
Why would you kill it if it wasn't doing any harm? We had one shot here in Eastern Iowa and the person who shot it received a LOT of grief. The cat was asleep on a branch sunny himself and the deer hunter shot it as a trophy for himself. Lots of bad vibe towards the shooter.

If its legal why not?


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496933
11/02/25 06:27 PM
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There's no place in Iowa for them. I'd take the trophy too.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: ~ADC~] #8496939
11/02/25 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
There's no place in Iowa for them. I'd take the trophy too.

You get a star for ur answer

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: slue-foot] #8496940
11/02/25 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by slue-foot
Why would you kill it if it wasn't doing any harm? We had one shot here in Eastern Iowa and the person who shot it received a LOT of grief. The cat was asleep on a branch sunny himself and the deer hunter shot it as a trophy for himself. Lots of bad vibe towards the shooter.


…. Busted one layed out on a tree across a pipeline from the truck on a county road years ago lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496942
11/02/25 06:33 PM
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I know you didn’t take the photo but it’s pretty undignified.
I couldn’t take one…
That’s my favorite animal in the world

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496952
11/02/25 06:43 PM
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What's un-dignified about it. Dead lion= good lion!






Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8496953
11/02/25 06:44 PM
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Me = jk = bang!!!!!! If legal

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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497040
11/02/25 08:00 PM
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Would definitely take it as a trophy if I had the opportunity and it was legal. Definitely on my bucket list. Eric

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497057
11/02/25 08:25 PM
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Just because it has a collar on it doesn't make it a house pet!!

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497065
11/02/25 08:30 PM
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Im surprised they're not protected in Iowa
We have a season here in Nebraska but its a very low quota. I think the season lasted less than a day this year.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497087
11/02/25 08:50 PM
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We can legally snare/ trap them where I live. Never have come across tracks on my line. I would definitely take one if I could. We have a government trapper that just deals with livestock predation. He kills a lot of cats and wolves from calls from farmers.

That cat was on numerous trail cams. It was only a matter of time before someone got it. When you have no regs or seasons on an animal they are going to be harvested. I’m sure that cat was killing deer, where I was there is a good population of deer. Sure wouldn’t wanted to come across it when we were pheasant hunting, or one of the young kids that was hunting with us.

I posted the pic for the Iowa guys. I’m sure a few of them knew about it and would be interested to know it was harvested. Big cats don’t belong in cornfields. That being said I’m not sure where they belong [Linked Image]

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: slue-foot] #8497092
11/02/25 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slue-foot
Why would you kill it if it wasn't doing any harm? We had one shot here in Eastern Iowa and the person who shot it received a LOT of grief. The cat was asleep on a branch sunny himself and the deer hunter shot it as a trophy for himself. Lots of bad vibe towards the shooter.



Say what......??

Those night demons kill on average , one elk or deer a week


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497095
11/02/25 08:57 PM
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They , along with wolves , belong in the zoo


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Gary Benson] #8497100
11/02/25 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Im surprised they're not protected in Iowa
We have a season here in Nebraska but its a very low quota. I think the season lasted less than a day this year.



Lack of california libtards in Iowa is the reason


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497101
11/02/25 09:05 PM
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No shortage of lions heck we give them away all of the time they keep ending up in other states you’re welcome. No season outside the Black Hills there they have a quota but open anytime in the rest of the state.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: AntiGov] #8497104
11/02/25 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
They , along with wolves , belong in the zoo


Spot ON !!!!

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: slue-foot] #8497133
11/02/25 09:49 PM
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Cougar are about as adaptable as coyotes, and they are prolific breeders.
Like coyotes, all they need are feed/deer and a little cover. I think they could do well in nearly all 50 States. Tgey are apparently even expanding into Alaska; Hawaii might be a little tough though.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497138
11/02/25 10:13 PM
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Here in good ol Illinois, they are protected, along with black bear and wolves.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: elsmasho82] #8497142
11/02/25 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
I know you didn’t take the photo but it’s pretty undignified.
I couldn’t take one…
That’s my favorite animal in the world


That's the mindset that has shutdown hunting them. Emotions over reality.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: elsmasho82] #8497143
11/02/25 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
I know you didn’t take the photo but it’s pretty undignified.
I couldn’t take one…
That’s my favorite animal in the world


…. Your favorite animal in the world would bite precious Jordy’s head off without thinking twice about it lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497145
11/02/25 10:42 PM
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They arent Corn or Prairie Lion, and there arent any mountains in Iowa. They gotta go!

I heard that one was called in? Thatd be a helluva rush

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: DWC] #8497150
11/02/25 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC
They arent Corn or Prairie Lion, and there arent any mountains in Iowa. They gotta go!

I heard that one was called in? Thatd be a helluva rush


I’ve watched two coming in while working coyotes. One in Arizona and one in Montana. Interesting indeed.

Osky



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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497154
11/02/25 11:34 PM
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To bad, was a collared cat could of gave a lot of info on them, clearly reading some of the posts on here most dont have a clue about them, and some learning would help.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: tucker13] #8497155
11/02/25 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker13
To bad, was a collared cat could of gave a lot of info on them, clearly reading some of the posts on here most dont have a clue about them, and some learning would help.


… that one I busted taught me something

… they got a 10 foot vertical when a 150 grain hits them behind the shoulder

… heck of a sight to behold


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497183
11/03/25 05:48 AM
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I wonder if a duke #3 would hold one????


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497195
11/03/25 06:02 AM
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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Monster Toms] #8497219
11/03/25 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Monster Toms
What's un-dignified about it. Dead lion= good lion!

Yep. And wolf. And bear.


CBCS
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: AntiGov] #8497224
11/03/25 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
They , along with wolves , belong in the zoo

I agee with this. In the southwest part of Wisconsin where I'm at is farm country, neither of them belong here. Of course the brilliant DNR in this state protects them. A calf or cow wouldn't have much of a chance against one. Here the only good cougar or wolf would be a dead one.
Kinda hard to believe the ones who don't understand that.

Last edited by Badger23; 11/03/25 07:37 AM.
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Scout1] #8497228
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Originally Posted by Scout1
I wonder if a duke #3 would hold one????

Just Anchor it good, we have caught and held them in bridger #3's


Let me sugar coat this
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8497241
11/03/25 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by elsmasho82
I know you didn’t take the photo but it’s pretty undignified.
I couldn’t take one…
That’s my favorite animal in the world


That's the mindset that has shutdown hunting them. Emotions over reality.

She said "she" couldnt, not you shouldnt. I can not bring myself to shoot a fox, we dont have many, dont care if you do.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8497242
11/03/25 08:31 AM
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I saw a Mt Lion with my own eyes back in the late 80’s. It was in the river hills of the Gasconade. It was never seen again in that area that I’m aware of. I hear reports occasionally of a siting somewhere in MO. I’m sure there are some passing through. Maybe some of our ex-conservation folks can comment.


CK
Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Diggerman] #8498026
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Originally Posted by Diggerman

That’s my favorite animal in the world[/
She said "she" couldnt, not you shouldnt. I can not bring myself to shoot a fox, we dont have many, dont care if you do.


And if it were go on the ballot , how do you think that'd go ?

The instant someone throws their emotions into wildlife conservation, I don't trust them.

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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8498034
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Trust me when I say I couldn’t care less for your opinion.
I didn’t beat anybody up about the post.
Just saying I didn’t care for the presentation of the photo and I wouldn’t want to hunt a mountain lion.
Also didn’t say I Wouldn’t .

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: elsmasho82] #8498038
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I've seen how thoughts like that change policy. You might not care about my opinion , but I certainly care about yours . It could affect wildlife conservation that doesn't directly effect you.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: saskbone] #8498040
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Would they eat dead rotten pigs like coyotes do? If that’s the case they’ll thrive here.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8498045
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I've seen how thoughts like that change policy. You might not care about my opinion , but I certainly care about yours . It could affect wildlife conservation that doesn't directly effect you.


I bought a bobcat tag this year and that was something I struggled with. Admittedly I’m a cat lover. Busted chops and all. I’m not targeting bobcats but if I caught one I would harvest it; tough as it would be for me.
I’m trying to grow as a trapper and it’s taken me decades to do so.
I’m not against hunting mountain lions but it’s not on my list of things to do.

Re: Iowa Cat [Re: Crappiekiller] #8498065
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Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
I saw a Mt Lion with my own eyes back in the late 80’s. It was in the river hills of the Gasconade. It was never seen again in that area that I’m aware of. I hear reports occasionally of a siting somewhere in MO. I’m sure there are some passing through. Maybe some of our ex-conservation folks can comment.


I know of folks in the Grove Spring area that have seen them.


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Re: Iowa Cat [Re: elsmasho82] #8498089
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I've seen how thoughts like that change policy. You might not care about my opinion , but I certainly care about yours . It could affect wildlife conservation that doesn't directly effect you.


I bought a bobcat tag this year and that was something I struggled with. Admittedly I’m a cat lover. Busted chops and all. I’m not targeting bobcats but if I caught one I would harvest it; tough as it would be for me.
I’m trying to grow as a trapper and it’s taken me decades to do so.
I’m not against hunting mountain lions but it’s not on my list of things to do.



When you catch one , try to pet it .....you will change how you feel.....no Mas struggles


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After reading some of the typical uneducated comments on this thread and the attacks against other posters for simply expressing their personal views I finally decided to chime in. My personal lion take is in the triple digits. I've taken lions in NM, AZ, and TX using traps, neck snares, foot snares, with dogs, and shooting over kills or some of the 32 encounters while out and about not in pursuit in those states. Most of those were taken for either livestock depredation or desert bighorn sheep protection. A few were taken because the season was open, I had a tag, and the opportunity presented itself. The last lion I took was 34 steps from my kitchen door and the full body mount is 12 feet from me as I type this. Just wanted to make sure some of the posters on here don't try to portray me as some animal rights activist. As a retired professional wildlife biologist, I support wildlife management by science-based principles and not by emotion or political agendas. Unfortunately, both sides of the predator equation are happy to support those avenues when it supports their own personal viewpoints as proven by some of the comments on this thread. The Iowa DNR is restricted by political mandate in Iowa from managing any lions that show up in the state based on science. They had requested back in August that the collared cat not be taken so they could learn more about movements of some of these dispersing animals. I do not fault anyone for legally taking a lion, even in this situation, as for most hunters it would be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Hunters are constantly reminded to show respect for harvested wildlife particularly when posting photos since wildlife is a public resource and our activities ultimately depend on public support even in those states with so called right to hunt amendments (read all the language in those, especially references to reasonable regulation). For those of you who profess to be Christians I'm dismayed you think you are superior to God as he created all living things for a purpose. I would never stoop to that level of arrogance in saying that any of the Creators creatures had no place on this earth or any right to roam this earth. As far as a threat. Last month while jogging an old closed FS road a lion walked across about 100 feet in front of me (I paced it off after changing to a walk). When I got to the point where it had crossed it was still standing 20 feet away in the brush. She (body characteristics) and I looked at each other and went on our way. I've been as close as 10 feet from unrestrained lions in the field while unarmed and never felt threatened. Attacks and fatalities from domestic dogs on humans and livestock dwarf those of wild predators. When I worked for USDA I used to advise ranchers, and still do, that if they had 1 round in their rifle and a wolf, a coyote, and a dog ran through their pasture they were dollars ahead to shoot the dog. Same advice goes for lions. My dog count won't be discussed here but I've been attacked three times in my life by dog packs. As someone who has dedicated their life to wildlife management for the public thank you to those posters simply showing basic respect for a living creature.

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Originally Posted by coytrpr
After reading some of the typical uneducated comments on this thread and the attacks against other posters for simply expressing their personal views I finally decided to chime in. My personal lion take is in the triple digits. I've taken lions in NM, AZ, and TX using traps, neck snares, foot snares, with dogs, and shooting over kills or some of the 32 encounters while out and about not in pursuit in those states. Most of those were taken for either livestock depredation or desert bighorn sheep protection. A few were taken because the season was open, I had a tag, and the opportunity presented itself. The last lion I took was 34 steps from my kitchen door and the full body mount is 12 feet from me as I type this. Just wanted to make sure some of the posters on here don't try to portray me as some animal rights activist. As a retired professional wildlife biologist, I support wildlife management by science-based principles and not by emotion or political agendas. Unfortunately, both sides of the predator equation are happy to support those avenues when it supports their own personal viewpoints as proven by some of the comments on this thread. The Iowa DNR is restricted by political mandate in Iowa from managing any lions that show up in the state based on science. They had requested back in August that the collared cat not be taken so they could learn more about movements of some of these dispersing animals. I do not fault anyone for legally taking a lion, even in this situation, as for most hunters it would be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Hunters are constantly reminded to show respect for harvested wildlife particularly when posting photos since wildlife is a public resource and our activities ultimately depend on public support even in those states with so called right to hunt amendments (read all the language in those, especially references to reasonable regulation). For those of you who profess to be Christians I'm dismayed you think you are superior to God as he created all living things for a purpose. I would never stoop to that level of arrogance in saying that any of the Creators creatures had no place on this earth or any right to roam this earth. As far as a threat. Last month while jogging an old closed FS road a lion walked across about 100 feet in front of me (I paced it off after changing to a walk). When I got to the point where it had crossed it was still standing 20 feet away in the brush. She (body characteristics) and I looked at each other and went on our way. I've been as close as 10 feet from unrestrained lions in the field while unarmed and never felt threatened. Attacks and fatalities from domestic dogs on humans and livestock dwarf those of wild predators. When I worked for USDA I used to advise ranchers, and still do, that if they had 1 round in their rifle and a wolf, a coyote, and a dog ran through their pasture they were dollars ahead to shoot the dog. Same advice goes for lions. My dog count won't be discussed here but I've been attacked three times in my life by dog packs. As someone who has dedicated their life to wildlife management for the public thank you to those posters simply showing basic respect for a living creature.


Did you not see the " guess the live weight " thread where a gutted steer was hanging from a front end loader ? That didn't offend me, nor did the pic of a dead lion. A dead animal that's going to be used is still a dead animal. Take the joint out of that horse's.mouth, it's high.


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No one mentioned the road killed lion in Connecticut about 20 years ago. I think I remember right that it came for South Dakota and was trail cameraed across the top of the US for two years working that way until someone hit it with their car.....jk


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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Did you not see the " guess the live weight " thread where a gutted steer was hanging from a front end loader ? That didn't offend me, nor did the pic of a dead lion. A dead animal that's going to be used is still a dead animal.


X2 And no one was attacked for their comments either. Simply someone pointed out that they were concerned with a fellow trappers position on killing the cat, and wanted them to think it through more thoroughly, so if ever there was a vote on allowing legally killing them, they might vote to continue to allow it. Nothing more was meant by that. Face to face there would of been no question about it, but on here it's hard to decipher at times.

Even I, who thinks it's just fine and encourage anyone who wants to legally kill one to do so, think they could of done better with the picture. Even though it doesn't bother me personally, even seasoned veterans like Swamp Wolf in his recent deer picture with the bloody tongue hanging out for example, sometimes post pictures that aren't very flattering to the animals, and the ones sought out by anti's to use in their propaganda. So I can see what Smash was alluding to.

I can see that coytrpr thinks there is a need for loins and wolves somewhere in the US apparently and "kill them all" offends him/her. That's just fine, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm sure there are lots who would agree with you. Based upon your comments though, if it came down to a vote, I think you'd vote to outlaw killing them in Iowa, and that is not right in MY opinion. They don't need to track what they do in Iowa, they don't need to be in Iowa at all. We don't have large areas where they can roam for days avoiding people, pets and livestock. There is zero need to protect them here.

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