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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: waggler] #8501976
11/11/25 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by waggler
The Douglas fir is one of the most common and widespread conifers in the western USA, and the most significant timber producing tree in the Pacific Northwest.
However, it is not a fir tree, it is actually a type of spruce. But what is most confusing is it's scientific name, Pseudo-tsuga Meenziesii: Pseudo-tsuga means "false hemlock".



I'll see your Pseudo-tsuga Menziestii and raise you a Robinia pseudoacacia....

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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8501987
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Show offs grin

At one time I could buy Doug Fir.
I "think" it came from out West.
Our normal Structural Select is Hem Fir.





Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502030
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"Hem Fir"; hemlock and any other true fir (silver, white, grand, noble, etc). But unknown to most people none of the superior Doug fir makes it into the hem-fir sort.


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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502113
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In framing lumber grading Doug Fir is in it's own category (D Fir) or sometimes included with Larch (D-Fir-L). The medium strength firs are grouped together (Hem-Fir or H-F) and the weaker spruces, pines and firs are in their own group (S-P-F). Southern Yellow Pine is usually in it's own category (SYP) and is mostly used in treated lumber and plywood.

There have only been a few occasions when I've had architects specify Doug Fir. Almost always it was on longer clear spans in residential construction.


Eh...wot?

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: white marlin] #8502245
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by waggler
The Douglas fir is one of the most common and widespread conifers in the western USA, and the most significant timber producing tree in the Pacific Northwest.
However, it is not a fir tree, it is actually a type of spruce. But what is most confusing is it's scientific name, Pseudo-tsuga Meenziesii: Pseudo-tsuga means "false hemlock".



I'll see your Pseudo-tsuga Menziestii and raise you a Robinia pseudoacacia....



Oh yeah? Well how about my alltime Dendrology favorite Dawn Redwood: Metasequoia glyptostroboides!

Pete

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: Pete in Frbks] #8502262
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by white marlin
I'll see your Pseudo-tsuga Menziestii and raise you a Robinia pseudoacacia....



Oh yeah? Well how about my alltime Dendrology favorite Dawn Redwood: Metasequoia glyptostroboides!

Pete


DARN, you're good!

You win!

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502338
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You guys beech like a grove of Fagus grandifolias.

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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502356
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Got a 30 footer west of my lane grew it from a 1 foot shute

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502369
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[quote=warrior]Why do we call the American Tulip Tree a Tulip Poplar or Yellow Poplar? When in fact it is more closely related to the Magnolias and not at all to the true Populus poplars.



No, but I have always wondered why Minnesotans cannot say poplar. It's really not that hard. Must be the Scandinavian in them.

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: Dean Chapel] #8502373
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Originally Posted by Dean Chapel
[quote=warrior]Why do we call the American Tulip Tree a Tulip Poplar or Yellow Poplar? When in fact it is more closely related to the Magnolias and not at all to the true Populus poplars.



No, but I have always wondered why Minnesotans cannot say poplar. It's really not that hard. Must be the Scandinavian in them.


Me too.
Kind of like "fisher cat", just make is simple (and correct); fisher.


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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502377
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I was trying to look up our cherries
to ask you guys about the big money wood.
Can you say excedrin headache in latin.





Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: Wright Brothers] #8502387
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
I was trying to look up our cherries
to ask you guys about the big money wood.
Can you say excedrin headache in latin.


Prunus serotina is black cherry.

Keith

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: Dean Chapel] #8502485
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Originally Posted by Dean Chapel
[quote=warrior]Why do we call the American Tulip Tree a Tulip Poplar or Yellow Poplar? When in fact it is more closely related to the Magnolias and not at all to the true Populus poplars.



No, but I have always wondered why Minnesotans cannot say poplar. It's really not that hard. Must be the Scandinavian in them.

its because we naturally want to say popple not because we can’t say poplar….it’s not a speech impediment….


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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502562
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It's not just Minnesotans, local folks in north central PA call it popple too. When I first heard that I had no idea what they were referring to.


Eh...wot?

Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: warrior] #8502573
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When the sap is running late spring here. People cut and peel the bark to make house siding. Brings a pretty penny as well.


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Re: You ever wonder, Tulip POPLAR [Re: Scout1] #8503378
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Originally Posted by Scout1
When the sap is running late spring here. People cut and peel the bark to make house siding. Brings a pretty penny as well.

I’d like to see a picture of that siding deployed


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