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Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517012
12/04/25 09:42 PM
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Ya said it right Bernie the Dems. spent 19 billion of surplus money gonna be a shortfall coming then what.

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517016
12/04/25 09:48 PM
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Hang him high!

Re: Minnesota [Re: Teacher] #8517210
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Originally Posted by Teacher
It’s pretty amazing how $300 million became a $billion. It was federal money. Therefore, it should have had federal oversight. I gotta think there is PLENTY of blame to spread around.

The Somalis were American citizens. In a way it’s no different than the mafia and tax fraud; military contractors being caught gouging the military for laundry service or any of the other ‘feel good’ programs that turned out to be frauds. We got them. Most have been prosecuted and are doing prison time.

Ultimately the governor is held responsible. Tim Walz has been a decent governor. Yeah, our taxes are high but if things were as bad as some on here say, the state would be attracting a whole lot fewer people than it does.


Even your excuses are lame.

No big deal, only 300 M?

No worse than the mafia?

Walz has been.......decent?

Yeh, taxes are high?

Quite the endorsement.

Nice try.

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517277
Yesterday at 10:31 AM
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I guess someone has had their head in the sand for a while. The problem is there are to many that think the same way. Walz should be removed period.

Re: Minnesota [Re: yotetrapper30] #8517287
Yesterday at 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
LOL Aaron.


Thanks ! And the Bee links are hilarious !


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Minnesota [Re: Teacher] #8517314
Yesterday at 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
It’s pretty amazing how $300 million became a $billion. It was federal money. Therefore, it should have had federal oversight. I gotta think there is PLENTY of blame to spread around.

The Somalis were American citizens. In a way it’s no different than the mafia and tax fraud; military contractors being caught gouging the military for laundry service or any of the other ‘feel good’ programs that turned out to be frauds. We got them. Most have been prosecuted and are doing prison time.

Ultimately the governor is held responsible. Tim Walz has been a decent governor. Yeah, our taxes are high but if things were as bad as some on here say, the state would be attracting a whole lot fewer people than it does.


Hope they don't investigate the PPP program. eek

Hate to tell ELON this, but most of the fraud occurs in the field by private businesses and individuals. frown

BTW I hear what you are saying. It gets ridiculous when they start exaggerating the numbers and start the blame game. The guy at the top isn't personally responsible for all the screw ups that happen while they are in charge, unless they made the program or prevented the application of require checks on compliance.

Last edited by Dirt; Yesterday at 12:08 PM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517326
Yesterday at 11:30 AM
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Tim Walz has been a disaster if you care at all about gun rights, wolf trapping fur trapping, and other outdoor issues. He talks about "follow the science" but signs a bill to ban commercial turtle trapping in Minnesota. He pushes for gun control every chance he gets. Signed a Red Flag law which up ends the Constitution by taking a person's guns without due process until AFTER the guns are seized.

As far as the Somali fraud, as others have pointed out, the state should have caught that right away. Supposedly serving 1000s of meals per day out of a tiny storefront These cases are being prosecuted by the US Department of Justice in Federal Court, Walz and his department heads are 100% to blame for the lax oversight, the Feds caught the fraud, not the state.

All this being said, Walz could very well be re elected. The Republican party is not very strong in Miinnesota. On statewide races, out state counties are always outvoted by the Twin Cities, Rochester, Duluth and St Cloud.

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517422
Yesterday at 04:26 PM
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Covid fraud GAO

"Hundreds of billions of dollars were likely lost to fraud during the pandemic. As of December 2024, the Department of Justice has charged more than 3,000 people, companies, and other entities with fraud-related crimes.

Defendants were typically sentenced to prison, usually 1–5 years. Most were also ordered to pay restitution in varying amounts, with the highest over $71 million."


Who is John Galt?
Re: Minnesota [Re: Teacher] #8517470
Yesterday at 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Teacher
It’s pretty amazing how $300 million became a $billion. It was federal money. Therefore, it should have had federal oversight. I gotta think there is PLENTY of blame to spread around.

The Somalis were American citizens. In a way it’s no different than the mafia and tax fraud; military contractors being caught gouging the military for laundry service or any of the other ‘feel good’ programs that turned out to be frauds. We got them. Most have been prosecuted and are doing prison time.

Ultimately the governor is held responsible. Tim Walz has been a decent governor. Yeah, our taxes are high but if things were as bad as some on here say, the state would be attracting a whole lot fewer people than it does.



Good grief!,..no, most have not been prosecuted, more to come and hopefully convicted!
The blame resides with the Dem leadership.
It is no secret this has come to bare,..for those that have followed truthful media displays.
Most state run media outlets have shyed away,..until it could no longer be ignored.

Tim Waltz, a decent governor?

Re: Minnesota [Re: Dirt] #8517480
Yesterday at 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Covid fraud GAO

"Hundreds of billions of dollars were likely lost to fraud during the pandemic. As of December 2024, the Department of Justice has charged more than 3,000 people, companies, and other entities with fraud-related crimes.

Defendants were typically sentenced to prison, usually 1–5 years. Most were also ordered to pay restitution in varying amounts, with the highest over $71 million."


Im trying to figure out how so many PPP loans to fake companies were issued in the first place. We own a small business and yes we received a PPP loan, that didnt need to be paid back just like all of them. We had to show proof of back tax records along with other sources of paperwork for proof. From there, we only got a certain percentage of what our actual income for a given period was. Which means those who were getting large PPP loans had to show alot more income to justify the loan/grant they would receive. Every loan should have simply been checked with IRS records to prove the borrowers paperwork matched previous tax statements.

Re: Minnesota [Re: Dirt] #8517499
Yesterday at 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Teacher
It’s pretty amazing how $300 million became a $billion. It was federal money. Therefore, it should have had federal oversight. I gotta think there is PLENTY of blame to spread around.

The Somalis were American citizens. In a way it’s no different than the mafia and tax fraud; military contractors being caught gouging the military for laundry service or any of the other ‘feel good’ programs that turned out to be frauds. We got them. Most have been prosecuted and are doing prison time.

Ultimately the governor is held responsible. Tim Walz has been a decent governor. Yeah, our taxes are high but if things were as bad as some on here say, the state would be attracting a whole lot fewer people than it does.


Hope they don't investigate the PPP program. eek

Hate to tell ELON this, but most of the fraud occurs in the field by private businesses and individuals. frown

BTW I hear what you are saying. It gets ridiculous when they start exaggerating the numbers and start the blame game. The guy at the top isn't personally responsible for all the screw ups that happen while they are in charge, unless they made the program or prevented the application of require checks on compliance.


Oh no it's not only 300 million and it's not only the federal child nutrition program that got bilked. There is more coming out every day it seems.

Some how the Democrat meat heads turned what was a 18 billion dollar surplus to what will be a deficit after this year. Only took them 2 years. Teacher's party managed to raise spending 40 percent 40 percent! Who got a 40 percent raise the last 2 years!

Gerald hit the nail on the head. Walz is doing a horrible job and any Democrat father with daughters should be ashamed of the Democrats letting dudes in the girls bathrooms and playing girls sports. Ashamed!


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517527
Yesterday at 08:05 PM
Yesterday at 08:05 PM
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"Minnesota’s sprawling Somali-linked fraud networks may be far larger and more deeply embedded than the public was ever told. What was originally reported as a $250 million “Feeding Our Future” scandal and later acknowledged as a $1 billion fraud may now exceed $8 BILLION, according to whistleblowers and new federal investigations.

In an explosive announcement on X, U.S. Small Business Administrator Kelly Loeffler revealed that numerous individuals and nonprofits indicted in the Minnesota COVID-relief scandal also received SBA PPP loans and other federal payouts, suggesting a coordinated, multi-agency exploitation of pandemic programs.

Numerous individuals and nonprofits indicted in the $1 billion Minnesota COVID fraud scandal, including Feeding Our Future, received SBA PPP loans in addition to other state and federal funding,

“I have ordered an investigation into the network of Somali organizations and executives implicated in these schemes. Despite Governor Walz’s best efforts to obstruct, SBA continues to work to expose abuse and hold perpetrators accountable"

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517552
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The liberals are proudly proclaiming that Somalis paid in close to 67 million dollars in property taxes, sales tax and employment taxes. That's less than $1000.00 per Somali. That's nothing compared to the millions they cost in social programs. It's even much less when you take into account they stole 8 billion dollars.

Keith

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517587
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https://freebeacon.com/democrats/fr...inside-the-countrys-largest-covid-fraud/

Just one of the frauds put on the taxpayer.
This one dated back ten months, yet crickets for the most part from media sources .

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517597
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Here is another fraud left silent,..until now.
Why would local,state media outlets trash it to the no tell bin?

https://www.google.com/search?q=mn+...+leech+lake+tribal&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvb

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517606
Yesterday at 10:48 PM
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Another Waltz staffer deemed unapprochable :
https://www.house.mn.gov/members/profile/news/15504/50658

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517608
Yesterday at 10:49 PM
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I don't know how anyone can stand up for this Walz and company.


The Dems started a new program for housing stabilization when they took control.

2.6 million dollar budget it ballooned to over a 100 million in about 2 years before they (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) it down because of fraud. No alarm bells went off when it went over budget?

The autism program is under investigation, it's been fleeced. No alarm bells!

Of course there were. Reports are coming out state employees were raising concerns and they were stymied.

I walz gets reelected this state is done for.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517617
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I fear we are already are done for. Pray not.
Won't gain much with Flanngan for sure.
How is the ice on the big lake?

Re: Minnesota [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8517640
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Originally Posted by Gerald Schmitt
Tim Walz has been a disaster if you care at all about gun rights, wolf trapping fur trapping, and other outdoor issues. He talks about "follow the science" but signs a bill to ban commercial turtle trapping in Minnesota. He pushes for gun control every chance he gets. Signed a Red Flag law which up ends the Constitution by taking a person's guns without due process until AFTER the guns are seized.

As far as the Somali fraud, as others have pointed out, the state should have caught that right away. Supposedly serving 1000s of meals per day out of a tiny storefront These cases are being prosecuted by the US Department of Justice in Federal Court, Walz and his department heads are 100% to blame for the lax oversight, the Feds caught the fraud, not the state.

All this being said, Walz could very well be re elected. The Republican party is not very strong in Miinnesota. On statewide races, out state counties are always outvoted by the Twin Cities, Rochester, Duluth and St Cloud.





Sadly, Gerald is right. The big metro cities in MN are liberal breeding grounds. Homelessness is rampant and the insane left is running the show. The GOP could turn this ship around but they will likely snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Re: Minnesota [Re: flash] #8517692
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Rumor has it they had to rescue someone off the big lake. It isn't or at least wasn't frozen all the way across and of course it broke off and he.floated out.

Shockingly he was from south of I94, probably voted for waltz. 20 some weeks of walleye season left and these morons can't wait a week.


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