tryed to dig some holes yesterday, with tractor and auger, over a foot of frost already,
had to chop with a axe to get thru, on the news today local town had water main frozen already,

10 here this morning it got up to 17 so far but the boilers keeping it warm in the house!

Poor engineering on their water lines...nowhere near cold enough for long enough to be causing those problems yet.

that's what i thought, midlander,

How is the cutter and tip on that auger?

Seems like the wrong time of the year to be building fence in the tundra

It was -17 at the house yesterday morning for the low. Water lines are eight foot down here. A foot of frost is nothing, and should not freeze a water line in the north.

Was messing around yesterday putting up some Christmas decorations for wife. Not much frost in yard here yet where snow covered before freeze.

Mac

Here, after a cold snap, when it's relatively sunny, the ground will be frozen less than an inch down, for a few inches and the top will be thawed mud. It makes it easy to slip. The dirt on top will slide on the ice below. You have to take short steps, so you don't slide and fall or tear something. It's easier to walk early or late in the day, when the surface is frozen too.

Keith

Sure would be handy digging trap beds in the winter.

lol bob j , here in 2013 -14 winter we had frost down 8 foot most city had water breaks, took our local city 10 years to fix them all, lots of people went long period's without water,

unfortunately we got that 11 inches of snow just as the lakes froze over so even with the cold we haven't got great ice yet

I did hear they are out on a few of the bays with 4 inches but stay away from any channels they aren't froze good yet

We have yet to get a frost. Still live tomato plants!

Water lines should be at least 4 foot…no way should they be froze by now!

yes, I agree, but roadway the frost get driven down fast , we have had -12 already, and we don't have much snow, could have been an old break or crack,