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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519520
12/08/25 06:06 PM
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An article from this weeks MN Outdoor news:

https://www.outdoornews.com/2025/09...help-minimize-human-exposure-save-money/

The article goes on to say how government wastes money and private business would reduce costs for private testing. Basicaly saying how government cannot get the blank out of the way and have USDA fast track this private lower cost test.


Help yourself.



Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Born] #8519537
12/08/25 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Born
An article from this weeks MN Outdoor news:

https://www.outdoornews.com/2025/09...help-minimize-human-exposure-save-money/

The article goes on to say how government wastes money and private business would reduce costs for private testing. Basicaly saying how government cannot get the blank out of the way and have USDA fast track this private lower cost test.

Interesting read....couldn't read full article without log in.

But, thanks for posting.


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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519609
12/08/25 08:12 PM
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Swamp, you know better than to say the testing is free.

That money has a lot better uses than making a boogie man. A whole lot better!!


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519617
12/08/25 08:20 PM
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If you don't wanna eat CWD infected deer, you can always eat processed food from the store that's probably even worse for you.

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: bowhunter27295] #8519634
12/08/25 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Swamp, you know better than to say the testing is free.

That money has a lot better uses than making a boogie man. A whole lot better!!

Well....it is taxpayer dollars. I stand corrected.

There are many unknowns my friend and denial won't get it done. Im worried for the future. Not your's and mine, but our offspring being able to enjoy what we have enjoyed.

Maybe I shouldn't care about whether deer hunting as we know it continues into the next century. A lot of people do not.


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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: WI Outdoors] #8519636
12/08/25 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
If you don't wanna eat CWD infected deer, you can always eat processed food from the store that's probably even worse for you.

Or you can get em tested and then you'll know.


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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519644
12/08/25 08:45 PM
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Yep mystery meat. Hauled around in a truck by a driver that can't speak English. What could go wrong?

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: WI Outdoors] #8519645
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
If you don't wanna eat CWD infected deer, you can always eat processed food from the store that's probably even worse for you.


I will not knowingly eat a cwd infected deer as much as I would eat the deer I shot that had been goarde or shot low and had a grape fruit sizes ball of puss and stinking rot smell to it.

My daughter is a nurse and recently read up on it cwd and now is avoiding deer and beef at least for a little while.

The truth is no one knows how it will or if it will effect humans. But I'm not going to knowingly eat it. I'm also not going to go out of my way to get them tested or wait on results with the possibility it may be infected after doing all the processing work just to toss the deer. That is exactly why I didn't take the boys down to the area we hunt in KY this year since it became a cdw zone.

So far its not in my area. If/when it gets here it may stop me from eating deer.

sounds like your a bit worked up over people making choices for themselves. I bet you didn't like people trying to make everyone get a covid shot or maybe you were one pushing for it.

Myself I didn't care what people did it was their choice but don't try to push and force the idea on others.

Eat all the infected deer you choose. But I suspect the health care cost of taking care of you in the nursing home if it does cross to humans will be a lot more expensive than the testing of the deer.








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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8519656
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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Really? They eat the entire deer before anyone sees it, bones hide and all?


You said you see carcasses annually. They dont die in groups from CWD.

A couple is what I said. More near roads which makes me think they probably got hit by a car and not cwd. I wouldn't think they would die in a group, but in the same area. They travel together and same areas. Little ones follow mom. Here they will be herding up soon. I just can't understand throwingvall this $ at testing and research but where are the dead deer? Are there alot laying aroundvthe woods in your area? Do they test the dead ones they find? Or just road kill and ones from hunters.

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Providence Farm] #8519700
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
If you don't wanna eat CWD infected deer, you can always eat processed food from the store that's probably even worse for you.


I will not knowingly eat a cwd infected deer as much as I would eat the deer I shot that had been goarde or shot low and had a grape fruit sizes ball of puss and stinking rot smell to it.

My daughter is a nurse and recently read up on it cwd and now is avoiding deer and beef at least for a little while.

The truth is no one knows how it will or if it will effect humans. But I'm not going to knowingly eat it. I'm also not going to go out of my way to get them tested or wait on results with the possibility it may be infected after doing all the processing work just to toss the deer. That is exactly why I didn't take the boys down to the area we hunt in KY this year since it became a cdw zone.

So far its not in my area. If/when it gets here it may stop me from eating deer.

sounds like your a bit worked up over people making choices for themselves. I bet you didn't like people trying to make everyone get a covid shot or maybe you were one pushing for it.

Myself I didn't care what people did it was their choice but don't try to push and force the idea on others.

Eat all the infected deer you choose. But I suspect the health care cost of taking care of you in the nursing home if it does cross to humans will be a lot more expensive than the testing of the deer.








This is almost exactly my stance. My brother is an er doc and also a huge outdoorsman. He is worried what the future holds for people eating infected deer. I just can't see feeding my family deer from an area confirmed with cwd. To each their own though.

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519870
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I've actually watched deer, skeletal in appearance, stumble around in circles, over and over and over. This was near my hometown, an area of Sask that used to be amongst the best in the world to kill big mulies. Now you're hard pressed to find a live mule deer there and roughly 1 in 2 tested in that area are positive. But I'm sure CWD is just some made up thing by scientists and government. lol

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8519920
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If the KYDFW has really been concerned about CWD then why have they allowed baiting by the cornpile assassins for this long? It has been my understanding that this is what spreads the disease.

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: sako22] #8519948
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Originally Posted by sako22
If the KYDFW has really been concerned about CWD then why have they allowed baiting by the cornpile assassins for this long? It has been my understanding that this is what spreads the disease.


This is actually my same thoughts here. Our Ministry of Environment has decided CWD is a real problem. They have also said that concentration of animals spreads the disease. They also allow baiting here in SK. I can say that 20 years ago I knew of nobody besides outfitters that baited, there was very little cwd. Now it seems that 9 out of 10 guys spend their season getting cell cam images at their bait pile and actually hunt when their phone says they should. I'm not sure it is a coincidence that the CWD rates have really risen with the changing approach to whitetail hunting by most guys and gals. If they actually want to reduce the spread they may wish to visit our laws. Our Minister of environment is just a big grain farmer with no experience hunting so....................................

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Corn piles still legal. Gravity feeders not unless it slings if out on ground

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8520020
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Swamp, you know better than to say the testing is free.

That money has a lot better uses than making a boogie man. A whole lot better!!

Well....it is taxpayer dollars. I stand corrected.

There are many unknowns my friend and denial won't get it done. Im worried for the future. Not your's and mine, but our offspring being able to enjoy what we have enjoyed.

Maybe I shouldn't care about whether deer hunting as we know it continues into the next century. A lot of people do not.


You keep referring to the next generation being able to enjoy it…you do realize since it was discovered we’re already in the next generation and enjoying it. There’s no cure, so what’s your answer to eliminating it? I’m not trying to start a fight, just genuinely curious. We can fret and worry about it all day long but after 60yrs they still don’t have a clue, so what’s the end game? Do we keep testing and if we find it prevalent, what then? Think someone already said you’d basically have to kill everything and scorch earth the landscape to get rid of it. That in itself doesn’t leave anything for future generations. I’m not against being proactive, but what are we being proactive about?

I look at this like I do cancer. We ALL know someone that’s died from it, someone who’s lives have been changed because of it, yet with trillions of dollars being poured into it, we still have it and because of $$$ always will. There’s no money in a cure.

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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Law Dog] #8520025
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Thing that really irritates me is when a state game agency decides to handle the problem and bait in the deer when carrying fetuses and shoot them over concentrated bait piles at night. Then they sample them and get less than .01% rate of infection and think they are helping with CWD. When you are eliminating tens of thousands of deer that are HEALTHY you are impacting the population much more than if CWD would. Not right. Poor biology. Would ask all fellow Missourians and those hunt here to request the data and examine it yourself. Not right killing pregnant healthy does over bait by govt officials.

Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8520177
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Thing that really irritates me is when a state game agency decides to handle the problem and bait in the deer when carrying fetuses and shoot them over concentrated bait piles at night. Then they sample them and get less than .01% rate of infection and think they are helping with CWD. When you are eliminating tens of thousands of deer that are HEALTHY you are impacting the population much more than if CWD would. Not right. Poor biology. Would ask all fellow Missourians and those hunt here to request the data and examine it yourself. Not right killing pregnant healthy does over bait by govt officials.

Missouri DoC has bled public support with that sharpshooting.

Not good.


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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8520193
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Ive stated multiple times that the Eastern whitetail population dynamic is very different than the Western dynamic. If you haven't researched much about CWD and cervid population dynamics then that may seem irrelevant to you.

Ive also stated that CWD will NEVER be eradicated by man. It is a basically a form of environmental contamination. We're stuck with it.

Georgia is trying to learn where it is & the prevalence rates in those areas.

Testing has been made convenient., especially in the CWD zone. It will eventually make the human jump...there is no biological reason that it hasn't already.

Time will tell......Happy Hunting!


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Re: CWD WHAT A HOAX [Re: Treefrog88] #8520198
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… I’ve always been captivated by cervid population dynamics


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Originally Posted by Savell
… I’ve always been captivated by cervid population dynamics

Bahaha

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