Do you read old Greek and Hebrew?

So, if one has fallen away, then he must repent before he's back on track?

Ah, so you and Luther have a differing interpretation of James. What makes you right and him wrong in this case?

If you can fall from Grace, then Grace isn't enough?

If they live a good life and treat others with respect and honor - yes.

we cant live a good enough life!!! thats the fault with most other man made religions and false doctrinal theological ideologies. we cant save ourselves no matter what we do. The blood of Christ is the only thing that saves us. Martin Luther was in error about the Book of James. Read it for yourself. If you are relying on a certain false doctrinal belief, then you will not see this just as the Pharisees couldnt see that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied about since the book of Genesis through Moses. 300 plus prophesies fulfilled to the smallest detailed. Now, there are over 1000 prophesies about the end times. And, if you read Matthew 24, Luke 21-22, you will see what Jesus told his 11 Disciples to look for upon Part one of his second coming. That is the rapture, we are seeing all of this currently. Paul describes and tells us about this in Thessolonians .

This is the problem with a certain sect which proclaim to be Christian. You only listen to what is said by a man in a black robe, you think a man, flesh and blood can absolve you of your sins, you worship Mary the mother of Jesus, You pray to her instead of the one seated at the right hand of the Father interceding for us in prayer, you think paying the church can remove sin, you think that you can pray others out of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), this is all a false doctrine, no different than many others that came about after the false prophet mohammed and islam.

GEt a bible and read it for yourself. it will explain itself if you are truly a child of our Savior Jesus Christ. If you arent you can post all you wish but when the time of judgement arrives, you will hear, Depart from me I never knew you.

Dont be mad at me!! You have been deceived

One of main reasons Luther even began researching was he didn’t believe in the fact that you could buy away your sins, and that a person on earth could forgive your sins, indulgences are these I believe, he believed you should live right and only god could forgive sins.

Ok, so I've read this and I'm trying to understand. Let me make sure I have this right. If works alone are not enough to get a person into Heaven, then do they matter at all?

Sheepdog says that works are evidence that one has accepted Jesus. Ok, makes sense. But what about someone that accepts Jesus as their savior, but whose works continue to be those of the sort that do not glorify God or follow along the lines of Jesus' teachings?

I'm not speaking here of someone who occasionally sins, realizes their sin, and then asks forgiveness for it. I'm speaking of people that accept Jesus as their savior but continue to live a life of sin either because (A) they simply want to or (B) they don't believe their sin should be considered a sin or even (C) they truly believe their sin is NOT a sin (but in God's eyes it is).

Will people like that see the Kingdom of Heaven so long as in their heart they do believe that Jesus is their Savior?

Yes. IMO.

1Co 10:23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 

And then:
Rom 5:20  Moreover the law entered, that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 
Rom 5:21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. 

This is debated as much as the Trinity; Law vs Grace. Arminianism vs Calvinism,
I'm neither one. I don't think it's a salvation issue. Study for yourself and pick a side.

I'm not a fan of James myself.

"This is the problem with a certain sect which proclaim to be Christian. You only listen to what is said by a man in a black robe, you think a man, flesh and blood can absolve you of your sins, you worship Mary the mother of Jesus, You pray to her instead of the one seated at the right hand of the Father interceding for us in prayer, you think paying the church can remove sin, you think that you can pray others out of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), this is all a false doctrine, no different than many others that came about after the false prophet mohammed and islam."


I'll pray a few Hail Marys and pray to God to open your eyes to the ignorance you spew. You're welcome .

May St. Francis De Sales and all those holy men and women which defended the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic church during the turbulent time following the erroneous “reformation” pray for us, and through their intercession obtain the graces necessary to call all of our Protestant seperated brethren home to the only church founded by Christ Himself and which offers Himself fully to us in the presence of the Sacrament of the Eucharist, whose magisterium is guided by the Holy Spirit, and which honors (not worships) Mary as Queen of Heaven and Earth! The true Christian faith is, has, and always will be Catholic Veni, Sancte Spiritus!

Hello, I encourage you to more fully explore the Catholic faith and its teachings. Your assertions are made in error as none of them are truthful representations of the faith. The Catholic Faith is the fullness of truth! May God Bless you and keep you!

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^A great place to start

That is absolutely not true.

By thier fruit you will know them.
Just because someone says they are Christian doesn't mean they are. I think belief is more than belief, if you understand what I mean. Belief in the Bible includes trust and goes deeper than merely believing something happened.

Martin believed some things that most Protestants would disagree with today, such as Mary being sinless. He was, after all, catholic before he became convinced that the church was corrupt. He didn't want to start a new church, he was trying to reform the existing one, but it didn't happen.

Maybe a state of Grace needs to be maintained?

Martin Luther believed in Real Presence in the Eucharist. There are still some Protestants who believe this, but of course many who don't.

Forgiveness of sins is one of the major benefits of the death of Jesus. On the other hand, if a person rejects Jesus' sacrifice, then that person is not forgiven. That's the authority Jesus gave to his disciples.

Well put. Man can't even come close to imagining the greatness of God. It's so far beyond our comprehension.

I think that's God's problem to sort out. All those who are truly Christians are still sinful, it's normal for the flesh to sin. Paul said so in Chapter 7 of Romans v14-20. "I'm not practicing what I'd like to do, but I'm doing the very thing I do not wish to do. So, I'm no longer doing it, but sin which indwells me. For the good that I wish, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not wish. But if I am doing the very thing I do not wish, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me."