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Re: Martin Luthers 95 Thesis [Re: SD Coon Catcher] #8527950
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Originally Posted by SD Coon Catcher
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Does the Catholic Church teach that the only way to Salvation is through them? And if they do can you show me in the Bible where it says that?

No the Catholic Church does not claim that, however it does possess the Fullness of Means to Salvation through Christ. No Protestant or other religion can claim the fullness of means (they lack the Sacraments and Apostolic teaching). The second Vatican Council does recognize that elements of truth and sanctification can exist outside the Catholic Church, however why would one not seek the fullness of the means and truth?

Because I've never read anything about the fullness of means though the the Catholic in the Bible. The does say nothing should be added to it or subtract to it which means it is the complete Word of God.

Re: Martin Luthers 95 Thesis [Re: Osagan] #8527961
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Originally Posted by Osagan
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You accuse the Catholic Church of many wrongdoings in the past, with little regard for its present status. Why? I invite you to find any “totally corrupt doctrine”, I assure you- you will not.


I would say the Catholic Church showing tough love to heretics by burning them at the stake or stretching their body parts on racks to be a totally corrupt doctrine.

And then there is John Tetzel extorting the poor folks for money to pay their loved ones into heaven. Or, out of purgatory/jail.


The Spanish Inquisition was state lead by the Spanish Monarchy, with Pope Sixtus IV granting them the authority to appoint inquisitors for tribunals. In no way were their actions Catholic doctrine. This is another instance of confusion between individual fallibility and the infallible Institution which is the Catholic Church.

Tetzel’s individual practice of selling indulgences was never doctrine, making that point null. Again, we must seperate the individual from the Institution.. Additionally, The Council of Trent officially banned this practice in the middle 1500’s.

I will continue to defend Mother Church as infallible. The actions of sinful Catholics who act in a corrupt manner individually cannot refute this fact.

Re: Martin Luthers 95 Thesis [Re: Sheepdog1] #8527968
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The term “Catholic Church” does not need to be explicitly named in the Bible for us to understand that it was the Church Christ instituted and willed all his flock to be member of.

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