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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: JohnF245]
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Egghhh I got one and I feel they can be a bit over rated... Especially if your getting a set of sticks and all that... I mean I think mine is cool and all and for the 10-12 ' I been going up in like it but man so.times I feel.like a set of sticks and a lock on would be a little easier
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: JohnF245]
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The safest I have ever felt up a tree was in a saddle. It took me 3 years to figure out exactly what I wanted. I now use three, three step sticks a Trophy line onyx platform and two screw in steps set at 10 and 2 on tree at the same level or a touch higher than my platform and my saddle. I hang my back pack at waist height and use it to lean my knees into the tree and shift between standing, leaning to knees to tree and sitting in saddle. I love it and will never use a climber again. I tried a ring of steps among other things. I like my tether above my head and a longer length on my bridge. One of the things I like the most about being in a saddle is being able to completely change my view by rotating around the tree.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: cmj]
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I bought one. Takes a while to figure out a climbing method that works best for you. There are a bunch of different ways to climb and adjust your saddle to make it comfortable. Tons of not needed accessories. I will never touch a climber again. U don't need expensive stuff. I use an ape canyon baron lite saddle, $105 on sale right now! And made in USA! One 8mm tether with a rope prussick instead of an expensive mechanical device, I think it was around $20. 8 mm predator rope 40 ft long to rappel with a figure 8. Ropes are from Hang Free and also made in USA. I'm not hanging in a tree on Chinese junk. I made a platform with a 2 step aider and use that to climb "1 stick climbing". It weighs 6 or 7 lbs. My son uses sticks but thats more stuff to carry. U can go around limbs with an extra tether or use rappel rope and always be tied to the tree. Wear your saddle in and the rest of stuff in your pack. No big climber banging off tree limbs.
I never got the ropeman fascination but then again I don't stick climb so adjusting lineman belt is a thing for me. Rope climbing methods for me, static rope and two tether climbing
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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I bought one. Takes a while to figure out a climbing method that works best for you. There are a bunch of different ways to climb and adjust your saddle to make it comfortable. Tons of not needed accessories. I will never touch a climber again. U don't need expensive stuff. I use an ape canyon baron lite saddle, $105 on sale right now! And made in USA! One 8mm tether with a rope prussick instead of an expensive mechanical device, I think it was around $20. 8 mm predator rope 40 ft long to rappel with a figure 8. Ropes are from Hang Free and also made in USA. I'm not hanging in a tree on Chinese junk. I made a platform with a 2 step aider and use that to climb "1 stick climbing". It weighs 6 or 7 lbs. My son uses sticks but thats more stuff to carry. U can go around limbs with an extra tether or use rappel rope and always be tied to the tree. Wear your saddle in and the rest of stuff in your pack. No big climber banging off tree limbs.
I never got the ropeman fascination but then again I don't stick climb so adjusting lineman belt is a thing for me. Rope climbing methods for me, static rope and two tether climbing As far as the ropeman, I don't like the prusik knot. I tried the prusik on my lineman belt for climbing and setting my stand. It sinches up so tight that it's hard to adjust as I go up the tree. It came with my harness and the only thing I can think is that the rope is small diameter causing the problem??? Ropeman is easy to adjust and slide.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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As far as the ropeman, I don't like the prusik knot. I tried the prusik on my lineman belt for climbing and setting my stand. It sinches up so tight that it's hard to adjust as I go up the tree. It came with my harness and the only thing I can think is that the rope is small diameter causing the problem??? Ropeman is easy to adjust and slide.
If you bump up the rope size of the prussik its easier to break. Getting away from sticks is the best thing people can do for saddle hunting.. you can get up faster and safer with two tether than one sticking.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: JohnF245]
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I've been curious about saddle tree stands. This thread prompted me to take a look at several videos on you tube. So, I feel partially educated. With what little I know, it seems to me they lack the versatility of a climber. I use a Summit Viper, and really can't see any advantage the saddle has over it. Especially when it comes to standing and switching position. I love my climber.
What am I missing?
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
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I've been curious about saddle tree stands. This thread prompted me to take a look at several videos on you tube. So, I feel partially educated. With what little I know, it seems to me they lack the versatility of a climber. I use a Summit Viper, and really can't see any advantage the saddle has over it. Especially when it comes to standing and switching position. I love my climber.
What am I missing? Stand and sticks will get you in a lot more different trees than a climber. When I bought my Lone Wolf and sticks a few years back, my climber never got used again.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: JohnF245]
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Okay, so it's the versatility in the tree itself. Makes sense. The "right" tree often isn't there. I've helped more than a few trees become the right tree prior to season.
But I still think the climber has it over the saddle in terms of changing position once in the stand. Yes? No?
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: Muskrat]
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Okay, so it's the versatility in the tree itself. Makes sense. The "right" tree often isn't there. I've helped more than a few trees become the right tree prior to season.
But I still think the climber has it over the saddle in terms of changing position once in the stand. Yes? No? No. Changing positions in a climber is a good way to come out of the tree. In a saddle, you can go 360 around the tree. Takes a lot less movement in the saddle to reposition as it's just a pressure shift. It's like the difference between a zero turn and a push mower for maneuverability.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
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Changing positions in a climber is a good way to come out of the tree . . .. I do not recall the year I bumped up to the Viper, but have bow and gun deer hunted out of this stand and have never felt like there was a hint of a coming fall. I can sit, stand, turn 180 . . no problems. So it's personal experience with a climber you're sharing, or something you've read or heard that would cause one to avoid it for that reason?
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: Muskrat]
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Changing positions in a climber is a good way to come out of the tree . . .. I do not recall the year I bumped up to the Viper, but have bow and gun deer hunted out of this stand and have never felt like there was a hint of a coming fall. I can sit, stand, turn 180 . . no problems. So it's personal experience with a climber you're sharing, or something you've read or heard that would cause one to avoid it for that reason? I think hes talking about actually going 180 around the tree not just turning 180 on the platform. In a saddle its easy to go at least 270° around the tree. You try to lean around the tree and shot behind u in a climber you might get in trouble.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: JohnF245]
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Well, I'm probably missing the point. I can sit and face in one direction, stand and face in one direction, rotate 180 standing and shoot behind the tree. I like that versatility. The trunks of trees I'm attached to are not so large in diameter that makes it impossible to do so. From my climber, standing, I have almost 360 degrees of surveillance.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: Muskrat]
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Okay, so it's the versatility in the tree itself. Makes sense. The "right" tree often isn't there. I've helped more than a few trees become the right tree prior to season.
But I still think the climber has it over the saddle in terms of changing position once in the stand. Yes? No? I've never hunted out of a saddle...... yet.
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Re: Saddle Tree Stands
[Re: Muskrat]
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Well, I'm probably missing the point. I can sit and face in one direction, stand and face in one direction, rotate 180 standing and shoot behind the tree. I like that versatility. The trunks of trees I'm attached to are not so large in diameter that makes it impossible to do so. From my climber, standing, I have almost 360 degrees of surveillance. Saddles shine for the mobile hunter as there isn't much to them. It's not fun to walk long distances with a stand on your back.
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