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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539876
01/07/26 09:14 PM
01/07/26 09:14 PM
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The average citizen or local cop could not get away with what this guy did…


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: alaska viking] #8539879
01/07/26 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Police call off chases all the time due to safety issues. They had her plate number. She had no warrants that have been reported. I watched the video and see no direct threat to any officer. She attempted to drive away. While going all of 1-1/2 miles per hour, she was shot dead, (multiple times), by an ICE officer. She was a U.S. citizen.

I get what you're saying, but we're saying and seeing this after the fact, not in the moment. They had every reason to fear getting squished by a car in that heated moment. And getting squished by a car ain't pretty.
I remember one time at the police garage I had to put a seized car on a lift that had been used to run someone over. They needed to collect tissue samples that were smeared all over the underside. It was gross. Not only were there chunks of the guy practically dripping off, but their was also a bunch of poop, because the dudes intestines had been ripped open.

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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539882
01/07/26 09:19 PM
01/07/26 09:19 PM
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One less enemy of America is a good thing ......however , what I'm seeing might be a stretch calling it " self defense " or " I feared for my life "


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: AntiGov] #8539887
01/07/26 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Interesting . The video I watched didn't show anyone getting run over

Looks like she turned the wheels sharply to avoid the closest officer

Looked like he would not have been hit

First shot through windshield was low driverside from front right fender area , not directly in front of the vehicle


What say you ?

Video from the front shows more, she actually hits him.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539888
01/07/26 09:24 PM
01/07/26 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by warrior


Okay, how about this.

Person A: Hitler is bad
Person B: Hitler should have been stopped
Person A: By any means necessary
Person B: Joe Blow is just like Hilter
Person A: Joe Blow must be stopped
Person B: By any means necessary
Person C is observing and listening to all this
Person A talking to person C: Joe Blow will do to you what Hitler did
Person B talking to person C: Joe Blow is the reason for all your problems

Person C grabs gun and shoots Joe Blow

All first amendment right?

Will someone please rid me of this meddlesome priest?


Well, yeah. All first amendment. The speech, at least. Neither person A or person B made any "true threats" to Joe Blow. Person C decided to commit a crime based on speech he heard.


Freedom is hard, I know.


Even spech that reasonably could be expected to elicit or result in violence by a listener?

I'm a constitutional absolutist but that should come with side of common sense. Common sense for both parties. And I would totally exempt any form of knowing dissemination of falsehood to elicit such response. You can't wink and nod your way out of responsibilty.

But the problem today is delusion, self delusion and false belief. That alone destroys the legal standard of reasonable.


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539892
01/07/26 09:26 PM
01/07/26 09:26 PM
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Another George Floyd thing??
Always a major riot during an election year .


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539894
01/07/26 09:28 PM
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Well white liberal women need to learn that usually bad outcomes happen when you ignore Law enforcement orders and or try and bum rush them with a car. I mean usually when there is a bullet hole in the windshield that usually means the officer was in front of the car. Minnesota has agreed it’s good to go to war with America good luck….I am from there and glad to say from there now days…

Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: hippie] #8539898
01/07/26 09:32 PM
01/07/26 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Interesting . The video I watched didn't show anyone getting run over

Looks like she turned the wheels sharply to avoid the closest officer

Looked like he would not have been hit

First shot through windshield was low driverside from front right fender area , not directly in front of the vehicle


What say you ?

Video from the front shows more, she actually hits him.



You may be right ....I only watched the one from the rear


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539901
01/07/26 09:36 PM
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Just watched a video that was shot from behind the vehicle. It shows in slow motion her spinning the tires and accelerating right at the Ice agent in front. Wheels were pointed directly at him until he shot and then the vehicle turned right. DEFINITELY trying to hit him. JUSTIFIABLE!!!

Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: hippie] #8539904
01/07/26 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Interesting . The video I watched didn't show anyone getting run over

Looks like she turned the wheels sharply to avoid the closest officer

Looked like he would not have been hit

First shot through windshield was low driverside from front right fender area , not directly in front of the vehicle


What say you ?

Video from the front shows more, she actually hits him.


President Donald Trump said the loonie liberal lesbian ran over the ICE officer in a National press briefing and a bunch of you guys are idiotically only going by what you see in a poorly filmed video, released by liberals to enrage and motivate their base. What happened to you? Can't you understand he was briefed by incredibly competent people on what happened?

Keith

Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539905
01/07/26 09:42 PM
01/07/26 09:42 PM
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Can’t use a vehicle as a weapon against an officer. She impeded there efforts all morning. Clearly pulled in front of Fed vehicle soley to impede. When ordered to dismount she fled using her vehicle to strike an officer.

This isn’t a MN issue it’s a Twin Cities metro issue. Greater MN Welcomes and fully supports ICE.


It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Kansasace2] #8539909
01/07/26 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansasace2
Well white liberal women need to learn that usually bad outcomes happen when you ignore Law enforcement orders and or try and bum rush them with a car. I mean usually when there is a bullet hole in the windshield that usually means the officer was in front of the car. Minnesota has agreed it’s good to go to war with America good luck….I am from there and glad to say from there now days…


We've got a female problem in this country. This is why that up until a minute ago women were the property and responsibility of a father or husband for almost all of our history.


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539952
01/07/26 10:39 PM
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Looked to me like a shooting in anger rather than self defense. But that said, if you try to drive away from the police you risk getting shot. Everybody that I ever teach to drive I emphasize that fact.


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: beaverpeeler] #8539960
01/07/26 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Looked to me like a shooting in anger rather than self defense. But that said, if you try to drive away from the police you risk getting shot. Everybody that I ever teach to drive I emphasize that fact.


She ran over the Federal ICE officer who shot her. He's in the hospital. I guess having someone try to kill you and run you over would make you understandably angry, so you're sort of right.

Keith

Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539961
01/07/26 10:45 PM
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He limps on his right leg for 2 or 3 steps while re-holstering his sidearm.


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: warrior] #8539966
01/07/26 10:52 PM
01/07/26 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Kansasace2
Well white liberal women need to learn that usually bad outcomes happen when you ignore Law enforcement orders and or try and bum rush them with a car. I mean usually when there is a bullet hole in the windshield that usually means the officer was in front of the car. Minnesota has agreed it’s good to go to war with America good luck….I am from there and glad to say from there now days…


We've got a female problem in this country. This is why that up until a minute ago women were the property and responsibility of a father or husband for almost all of our history.


Bold assessment. Would you be willing to place a wager of sorts? I know you are not dumb!


The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539969
01/07/26 11:06 PM
01/07/26 11:06 PM
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This is war that we are witnessing agitated by Tampon Tim, and the evil mayor! She got shot for her actions PERIOD!

This won’t be the end of this and its coming to your town until we rid this country of the evil that has been brought to America!

Probably good the road was icy or he would have died. I saw 1 officer slip and almost fall just to the rear of her car!

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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: EdP] #8539971
01/07/26 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EdP
Let MN burn, they only burn themselves.

You have to understand the majority of Minnesotans arent crazy like most seem to believe. Its the majority of Minneapolis/St. Paul people that are nuts. You get away from the metro areas and most are conservative people. Take away Minneapolis and St. Paul and Minnesota would be an awesome place to live.


"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539972
01/07/26 11:20 PM
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… all y’all Yankees are crazy lol


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Re: Ice shooting,,,, [Re: Vinke] #8539974
01/07/26 11:23 PM
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My advice to those who don't believe this was a justified shooting is to warn all your other liberal friends that now is not a good time to test the patience of law enforcement..lol

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