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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540546
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"Get out of the vehicle!"

"No!"

BAM

Not in America, right?


Just doing what I want now.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: alaska viking] #8540554
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
"Get out of the vehicle!"

"No!"

BAM

Not in America, right?


… yeah you shouldn’t just shoot brainwashed liberal lesbians like that

.. we should be more humane

.. maybe just catch them and put em in those mobile chicken tractors like W’Dawg builds and give them estrogen

… make ‘em watch gone with the wind or steel magnolias until they normalize

.. something like that


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540557
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Good idea ....sevel


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: alaska viking] #8540558
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
"Get out of the vehicle!"

"No!"

BAM

Not in America, right?


Do you honestly think you have the right and ability to say no and make it stick? Forget the gun and trying to drive over a cop. You're sitting on the side of the road and a uniformed officer tells you to step out of the vehicle and you say no, what do you think is going happen? That he'll apologise and let you drive off?

Not on your life, you will be exiting the vehicle with or without lumps, your choice. Now right wrong or otherwise it is no longer within your power to stop what is going to happen and the remainder is for your attorney and a judge and/or jury to determine.

Is it right? Maybe, maybe not it all depends on just why you were stopped and asked to step out and whether they can prove it by lawful means.

You toss in a few rights, lefts or weapons and you just might be letting your estate settle matters for for you.

And I say all this as one accused of being a cop hater.


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540559
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If the individual chooses to accelerate a 2000# vehicle in the general direction of a law enforcement officer, it becomes a weapon. At that moment the individual should be shot.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: AntiGov] #8540564
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Good idea ....sevel


… if you don’t learn to spell my name correctly… I’m gonna ride up there and rip them goofy looking crow wings off your head lol


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: KeithC] #8540570
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
How was the officer to know that there were no bystanders in danger behind him - if she was willing to run over a police officer, she could have hit others. If she was ready and willing to run over a cop - is that the type of person to give the benefit of the doubt?


There were more officers farther up the road. You can see them in the videos.

Keith


Did that officer know positively there were no bystanders or cops in the road behind him as he was struck by the car and discharged his weapon. In addition to failure to comply, she intentionally threw the car into reverse and potentially could have injured the cop holding onto the door handle. It is highly likely, in her state of mind, she did not look behind her when backing up - two people had just walked behind the car - if more had been there, she would have hit them. She did intentionally run into a cop. The woman was deranged at this point, if not before.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540577
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So reckless driving is punishable by the death penalty?

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Leroy Bob] #8540579
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
So reckless driving is punishable by the death penalty?



Since we're playing stupid here, I guess I would ask you why she didn't just move out of the way of the bullet?

Ol dad

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540580
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She went there to raise he$$ and it worked. Perfect ending.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540586
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What are the normal rules on use of force for federal agents, and were they followed here?
ICE agents like the one involved in Wednesday’s shooting work within the Department of Homeland Security. For its part, the Justice Department cautioned against officers shooting at moving vehicles and encouraged police departments to prohibit it.

The DOJ’s use-of-force policy forbids its own agents and officers from firing at a moving vehicle unless it poses a threat of death or serious injury “and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”

From the DOJ.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Leroy Bob] #8540589
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
So reckless driving is punishable by the death penalty?


When they are intentionally placing other people at risk of bodily harm - yes.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: alaska viking] #8540593
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Honestly, regardless of her "training", after seeing "the video", unless there is a LOT more to it, that shooting was unjustified. The officer that fired the shots was in no way in danger of severe bodily harm or death and to hear Bondi describe it was B.S. He could have easily taken one step back, or none at all, and be safe. She was shot going 1 mile per hour.
I am a conservative and lawful, and believe in supporting law enforcement, however the use of deadly force should be a last resort.
In this instance, killing her was stupid and un-necessary.

Unjustified? you are delusional. If someone tries to run me over with a car, I'm shooting the SOB.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: blackoak] #8540595
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Originally Posted by blackoak
Originally Posted by alaska viking
Honestly, regardless of her "training", after seeing "the video", unless there is a LOT more to it, that shooting was unjustified. The officer that fired the shots was in no way in danger of severe bodily harm or death and to hear Bondi describe it was B.S. He could have easily taken one step back, or none at all, and be safe. She was shot going 1 mile per hour.
I am a conservative and lawful, and believe in supporting law enforcement, however the use of deadly force should be a last resort.
In this instance, killing her was stupid and un-necessary.

Unjustified? you are delusional. If someone tries to run me over with a car, I'm shooting the SOB.

100% justified. All day. Officer in front of the car has a fractions of a second to comprehend the threat moving towards him. Once the switch is thrown and engagement is on, the time to shut it off doesn’t happen nearly as quick. The gal behind the wheel used far more time to determine that the best thing that she could do is drive towards an officer with another just beside her door.

Bad outcome, yes. Officers did what needed to be done in that moment.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540600
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I sure am glad all y'all numb nuts are faster than a speeding car while running backward, no less.

I, for one, am too old and too fat to run anywhere other than to the john. Car comes at me. I ain't second guessing, I'll light it up.

Some of y'all are letting your natural cautionary fear of government abuse of power, a totally natural and laudable fear that I share with you, color your opinions. While some are lost in TDS delusion.

IMO, there is no possible way to square saying you fully support what ICE is doing in rounding up illegals yet call this act of self-defense unacceptable. It is merely an unfortunate outcome of that which you say you fully support because were it not a protester, it would be an illegal fighting back. To be crass, you can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs.


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540612
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It appears some of you should go and interfere with the “interferers” iffin you want them to stay safe. lol


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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8540617
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
The Liberal media will not report any of this.



There are fake accounts from all sides, that will run any lie they want.


You literally cant believe anything.

50 to 60% of the accounts on social media are bots driving an agenda.

Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540618
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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: warrior] #8540674
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I'm as conservative and pro law enforcement as anyone but this photo does bother me. A human life is a human life whether its an unborn child, a left wing kook or a right wing patriot. I've watched every video released and studied this photo. Was it justified? I can't answer that, I'll leave that up to the people who know more than I do. It it worrisome to me? Yes but I'm not making judgements.

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Re: The plot thickens, it was a set up [Re: Archeryguy] #8540681
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Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I'm as conservative and pro law enforcement as anyone but this photo does bother me. A human life is a human life whether its an unborn child, a left wing kook or a right wing patriot. I've watched every video released and studied this photo. Was it justified? I can't answer that, I'll leave that up to the people who know more than I do. It it worrisome to me? Yes but I'm not making judgements.

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I would argue that had she complied with a uniformed officers reasonable request to get out of the car, this footage would never exist.


I have nothing clever to put here.





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