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Urine and fish oil #8535746
01/01/26 07:36 PM
01/01/26 07:36 PM
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Up a creek MT
jnsff69 Offline OP
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What do they put in both of these that doesnt cause then to freeze?
I was hoping that they would both be mostly pure as they came from a reputable supplier.
We were single digits and I forgot to bring them in last night, thought great was going to have to wait to go check traps. For them to thaw but they weren't frozen solid.. they both reminded me of jello.
Just wondering being they're not mostly pure if there is an added smell of something that will lessen the effectiveness of them.
Thanks


Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere.
Or so I've been told.
Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8535755
01/01/26 07:47 PM
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Your asking the right questions

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536032
01/02/26 10:24 AM
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Glycerin, a must have for me in lures and baits
I believe most lure makers put it in their products

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536044
01/02/26 10:34 AM
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Its not a must have in most circumstances. Its cheap and widely available and gives a consistency that humans like

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Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: Yes sir] #8536049
01/02/26 10:41 AM
01/02/26 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Its not a must have in most circumstances. Its cheap and widely available and gives a consistency that humans like

I trap the second half of the season, so it's a must for me or my lures and pee are frozen and unusable.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536055
01/02/26 10:49 AM
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Ive sent lures to the coldest regions of the lower 48 and specifically told very knowledgeable trappers to report back on the usability of the product in cold weather. All was good despite being told glycerin was a necessity. There are other ingredients that have a more positive effect on formulations that keep them working in cold conditions. No experience in the cold of the far North but so far I've found glycerin not to be a must in most cases in the coldest parts of the lower 48.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536058
01/02/26 10:56 AM
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Would you mind telling what keeps your lures from freezing
You can send me a PM if you don't want it posted for everyone to see

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536585
01/03/26 09:00 AM
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I understand what Seth is saying, if you are using a lot of stuff tinctured in alcohol in your lures, or certain oils, they will also work as an antifreeze. But it depends entirely on your lure composition whether it is going to need antifreeze added. My gland lures are pretty much pure glands and urine, so I add glycerin for antifreeze and have been very happy with it. Glycerin has some very helpful properties, it is not only an antifreeze, but it helps keep products moist and not dry out or evaporate, it works as a thinning agent on lures that are too solid and a thickening agent on lures that are too runny, and it is somewhat sticky and will stick to what you smear it on. It is not an attractant though, and not only doesn't add any attraction to the lure, but dilutes the attractants.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8536651
01/03/26 10:40 AM
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Bearcat nailed the real benefit of glycerin, in my opinion.

To keep things from drying out so fast.

There are other things you can use to this effect too, but most of them change a formula quite a bit. Maybe for the better, maybe not.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8541105
01/09/26 06:32 PM
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I can certainly understand the concern about lures/bait drying out in the West.

here, in the East, that's almost never a concern in trapping season.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8541181
01/09/26 08:00 PM
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I know deer and livestock like to check out commercial urine. If you look what’s in the antifreeze they’re using, it’s understandable. I hate using it, but I did today……lol


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Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8541540
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If you are concerned about glycerin being a negative ingridient in commercial urine, you are worried about the wrong thing.


I told ya three times already....the laws on my side
Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8541609
01/10/26 04:39 PM
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If that’s directed to me, I’m not concerned with any additives……lol. I don’t generally use commercial urine and certainly don’t rely on it. I ain’t knocking others that do use it and for those that do, right on! No worries here.


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Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8542859
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Not at you, i wont use it either. At least not from major supply houses.
But its not because it has glycerine in it. Glycerine is the least of my concernes unless its cut so bad its mostly glycerine. Its the diet etc that i dont like cake fed and grain fed animals have a unique smell and its very diffrent and not in a good way.

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Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8543153
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Quality 'pure' fish oil almost never freezes solid.
Thick ? Yes, but not solid. Same with motor oil.
I've never seen it in my career of making it, because the water has been separated from it.
Now, I'm not sure about what you using,
Bottle it in pint squirt type bottles and you can lay it horizontal on your vehicle's dash, then turn on your defrost.
It will be liquid in no time.
Same with urine.
As far as adding liquid to urine.
I don't. It will change the odor. I have used light salt. But usually just defrost it on my dash as I drive.

Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8543339
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Thanks, ya I'm on my quad which is why I was sad I forgot to bring it in. Ha neither of them were frozen solid, good to know on the fish oil but I just thought to myself that @least the urine should of frozen but it too was like jello which is why I was wondering.


Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere.
Or so I've been told.
Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: TravC] #8543522
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Originally Posted by TravC
Not at you, i wont use it either. At least not from major supply houses.
But its not because it has glycerine in it. Glycerine is the least of my concernes unless its cut so bad its mostly glycerine. Its the diet etc that i dont like cake fed and grain fed animals have a unique smell and its very diffrent and not in a good way.

I hear ya! There’s a reason why cervids & livestock are attracted to it. When I tried using wolf “urine” years ago, I thought a deer would avoid it…..lol, quite the opposite. But it’s not too often they’ll come check out a real pee post, even though they’re right there.
Like mentioned above, the commercial stuff freezes at different temperatures, and I generally don’t have a a heater close by either. I’ve used it as a cover scent, but keep in mind that it’ll attract unwanted attention which isn’t what I bought it for….lol
But if it’s working for others, why change?


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Re: Urine and fish oil [Re: jnsff69] #8543565
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Our trout oil has never frozen on me. It will get very thick where it won't squirt, it will be like mayonaise but if you take the lid off you can put a stick into it and twist out some and toss it into a hole if need be. The odor is always there and working. I have used it in sub zero temps like that. Put in on your dash and it will soften in a short while. It will begin to thicken in the upper 50 degrees, just the nature of pure oil.

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