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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: KeithC] #8547931
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Running the plates of someone who is harassing federal agents, while they are working is 100% part of the job. The officers' safety is at stake.

Keith

If that's all that was happening, I'd agree 100%. But, per the OP, that's not what the information was being used for. The problem isn't necessarily the looking up the information, the problem is in what the information is them used for.

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: loosegoose] #8547933
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by white marlin
running plates is an abuse of power??

who woulda thunk?

It can be, yes. NCIC isn't for willy-nilly whatever-you-want use. Running plates to play a game of uno-reverse doxxing on protestors, while funny and clever, is almost certainly a violation of NCIC rules.


Running plates isn't a NCIS function. It is a state DMV function and open to any LEO. They do it everyday with cameras. That gives you home address, now if the agents were using NCIS to run criminal background checks to run the names belonging to the home address we would be talking about violations.

Just say that you know nothing of car tags and NCICS. Two totally different things.

Car tags are no different than the address on your mailbox and as inanimate objects do not share 4th amendment privacy protections save those given to their owners from search and seizure. I or anyone can pull up your address on the county platt map and get your name, nothing illegal about that.


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8547936
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BTW, you might ask why are they making a NCICS claim in the article when any knowledgable person would know what I just outlined.

Is it possible they purposely throw in a red herring to gin up the questions you ask?

Dare I say it, are you being lied to by the media?


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: loosegoose] #8547960
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by KeithC
Running the plates of someone who is harassing federal agents, while they are working is 100% part of the job. The officers' safety is at stake.

Keith

If that's all that was happening, I'd agree 100%. But, per the OP, that's not what the information was being used for. The problem isn't necessarily the looking up the information, the problem is in what the information is them used for.


what is the information being used for? I mean, not just what one unidentified caller is CLAIMING...I mean what has been its PROVEN use?

Do you not think it is plausible that the feds are identifying suspects who are committing the crime of interfering with lawful LE operations????


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8547965
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I suspect many of the people harassing ICE officers will soon be arrested on Obstruction of Justice and other charges. I would guess all of us hope so.

Keith

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8547968
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not ALL of us, Keith!

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: KeithC] #8547971
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I suspect many of the people harassing ICE officers will soon be arrested on Obstruction of Justice and other charges. I would guess all of us hope so.

Keith

Why do you think arrests are coming?

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8547981
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The protesters hate our gov't and would like to see it fail.

Now go look at LG's memes.............


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: loosegoose] #8547984
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by white marlin
running plates is an abuse of power??

who woulda thunk?

It can be, yes. NCIC isn't for willy-nilly whatever-you-want use. Running plates to play a game of uno-reverse doxxing on protestors, while funny and clever, is almost certainly a violation of NCIC rules.


Apparently, you don’t understand law enforcement work. They can run any plate number. This is not a game as you call it. Their lives and family members lives can depend on it. Your remarks sound very anti-law enforcement. You also sound like you are siding with the agitators.

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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: trapdog1] #8547985
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by KeithC
I suspect many of the people harassing ICE officers will soon be arrested on Obstruction of Justice and other charges. I would guess all of us hope so.

Keith

Why do you think arrests are coming?


Because they are literally obstructing justice.

Keith

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8547998
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I forget, LG...did you decry the tactics of the "Biden" Administration when they used phone records to track down January 6th suspects? If you did (you DIDN'T!); I missed that.

How about when the "Biden" Administration began phone surveillance of sitting Senators (ooops, I mean REPUBLICAN Senators) ?

it appears as if your Libertarian streak only runs one way...

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8548002
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Every major law enforcement agency has an intelligence division tasked with collecting information on known bad actors and potential bad actors. Facial recognition, tag numbers, known associates are all documented and filed away somewhere. None of that is a violation of rights as long as all of it is collected in the public and in clear view. No search involved. Basic rule, if me or you joe citizen can see it and take note of it then so can they.

As for the riots.. um "protests" are concerned, because felonies have occured during them and LEOs have been physically assaulted and threats on life actively ongoing both reasonable suspicion and probable cause exists to investigate and/or stop and question.

Just because you've been lied to that screaming verbal abuse and threats is protesting or 1A protected speech does not mean your "rights" are being violated when they want to know who you are.

The only right to protest we have is to PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE. With emphasis on peaceably and we have public indency and public disorder laws on the books for when your speech is no longer peaceable.


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8548004
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That's libertine not libertarian, white marlin.


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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
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Apparently, you don’t understand law enforcement work. They can run any plate number. This is not a game as you call it. Their lives and family members lives can depend on it. Your remarks sound very anti-law enforcement. You also sound like you are siding with the agitators.



I'm not anti law enforcement. I'm opposed to the state abusing its power. I worked for a police department for 13 years, and served them quite well. At least, they seemed to think so.

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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8548085
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I believe that plaque says Donald Trump on it.


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: hippie] #8548087
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Originally Posted by hippie
The protesters hate our gov't and would like to see it fail.

Now go look at LG's memes.............

He got them deleted as he was losing badly.


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Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: warrior] #8548090
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Like a 5 year old getting a participation trophy in soccer.lol

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Originally Posted by white marlin
I forget, LG...did you decry the tactics of the "Biden" Administration when they used phone records to track down January 6th suspects? If you did (you DIDN'T!); I missed that.

How about when the "Biden" Administration began phone surveillance of sitting Senators (ooops, I mean REPUBLICAN Senators) ?

it appears as if your Libertarian streak only runs one way...

As usual, losing your mind on the internet over politics. Take a breath, I can see your neck veins popping out through your keyboard.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Originally Posted by white marlin
I forget, LG...did you decry the tactics of the "Biden" Administration when they used phone records to track down January 6th suspects? If you did (you DIDN'T!); I missed that.

How about when the "Biden" Administration began phone surveillance of sitting Senators (ooops, I mean REPUBLICAN Senators) ?

it appears as if your Libertarian streak only runs one way...

As usual, losing your mind on the internet over politics. Take a breath, I can see your neck veins popping out through your keyboard.


not at all...I know he's a Lost Cause.

just pointing out the hypocrisy...

Re: Tables turned on them? [Re: Rat Masterson] #8548112
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Like a 5 year old getting a participation trophy in soccer.lol


… thanks for changing our oil lol


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