The Universal God has been creeping in for years. Businesses, clubs and churches do so to get their patronage up and bring in cash. Its nothing new, down on Mars hill they had so many generic gods they even had a memorial to the "unknown god". Its a leaven that is alive and well and growing quickly. Baking stops the leavens growth, but there isn't enough fire in the church to get the job done. Don't want to run off the money now do we.

Abraham refused the tithes and offerings from the King of Sodom so that he couldn't say he made Abraham rich and thus taking away the credit from God.

I would not stay with anyone that I did not trust, she is not going to change in my humble opinion. How did you not know your son was gay? There had to be signs. I agree with what you said about you might not be a good fit together. Watch the news, some liberal white women are suffering from a severe case of mental illness.

I'm pretty sure stoning a homosexual child and treating one's wife like property is Old Testament. We moved past that.

OP, I get that homosexuality is a sin but love your son. Love your wife. Don't listen to most of these dudes on here.

Yep

Glad to know there are still a few people around that can see and think for themselves.

Too many opt for being narrow minded sheep. They just put the blinders on, insert ear plugs, and spew regurgitated narratives. Somewhere in the process, they lose the ability to think for themselves.

The only thing i noticed when he was younger that was confusing to me was he did not want anything to do with me. He was very stand offish. My wife would say he is just fiercely independent. I tried to connect with him but it seemed like he could take it or leave it. He is a very handsome guy with a very well put together body. In high school he had a lot of female attention but did not pursue the girls like I did at that age. He went to dances with a few girls but that was it. It was the same in his first two years of college then things changed his senior year in college.

I do love my son. That is why I am hurting. I do love my wife. That is why I am here looking for answers as to how others have handle a situation like this.

I definitely see white liberal woman who are mentally unstable. As i mentioned earlier the first 22-23 -24 years of our marriage i thought i was the luckiest guy on earth then menopause and social media hit at the same time. She was a mess during menopause. She is on the backside of menopause now but is still unstable on the ability to maintain a lasting close relationship. We can do great for about 6 weeks then the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) starts back up.

ok , so he is gay
Gay doesn't mean bad people , gay means not attracted to the opposite sex.
he probably kept if from you because he knew you would dis-approve / be disappointed.
do you disapprove of him being gay or the irresponsible agenda of the drug an uncommitted sexual relationships that many gays involve themselves in.

what if you said to him it crushed me because I wanted you to be happy and enjoy the love of a woman , children , a family.

your wife choose to show him support rather than loose him.

she went with the common party time gay , sex and drugs because it was what she saw offered as ways to support him.

maybe you can sit down with both of them and explain that you still love him and that you also want to support him but the sex and drugs lifestyle that you see pushed and supported is not healthy.
that there can be healthy committed long term relationships and gay , there can even be grandchildren they might be adopted or foster kids but chosen family is still family.

work with both of them to find a better , safer , more stable , healthy way to live gay and to support your gay son.
If you can do that you might keep and build a stronger relationship with both of them.
it might mean you change churches.
it might be some middle ground church that is not anti gay but believes in responsible stewardship of the body and family and not reckless living which would be equally reckless if it were strait people.

yes I have a Gay kid.

I feel very sorry for you in this situation. I have known several couples that stayed together for their kids and after the kids were gone they imploded. Couldn't stand each other and moved on. It is really hard to make someone love you, if they don't, the more you try pushes them away even farther.
I wish you the best and hope you can find a way get through this.

I heard a saying once that might apply here.
"A girl marries a guy and thinks she can change him. A guy marries a girl and thinks she will never change". Both are wrong.

This is true. At our wedding reception the videographer was interviewing people at the reception. In the segment that he interviewed me i said those exact words. I said to my new wife please dont ever change I love you! In the past 8 years she has tried and tried to make me think different….. and here we are!

Well then you just have to find the one that IS true.

When I see the worldviews and consequences that flow from anti-religion, I see no truth there.