Apparently that is a thing and there is a documentary covering it on amazon prime (and others)... "Borderlands Jaguar".

This hound hunter bayed one and is the first one to take live pics of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_KfpDmPL4

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUBvv9dD5eX/

Warner took the picture years ago.

I believe there are 8 known individuals that either reside in the US or cross back and forth between US and Mexico.

I just looked it up. Those jokers are as heavy as a mountain lion.

attended a seminar on pumas so from what i remember cougars,mountain lions,panthers and jaguars are all sub species of a puma

Years back there was someone on Tman who had a ton of first hand knowledge about guys hunting Jaguars in the U.S back in the 60s or so. Apparently the guides were buying Jaguars and bringing them north to sell hunts to rich guys, that left the impression there was far more Jaguars in the U.S than in actuality. I wish I could remember who posted about it.

I seen videos of them taking down crocodiles. Amazing cat

Very possible it was Gulo, he had a lot of knowledge on things.

They can get up to 400 pounds per my library on hunting them. The Mexico strain does not get that large, the big boys are down in the Matto Grosso and Bolivia. You want a good read find a copy oh Tigrero! by Sasha Seimel - I wont ruin it for you

Dang, if your right that knowledge was likely lost with him.

I'm no expert on cats, but I'm pretty sure jaguars are a totally different specie from mountain lions(regardless of which name you use). Very interesting stuff! Their documented presence north of the border could lead to further restrictions on trapping in those areas. I think similar things have already happened in areas where there is even a transient population of lynx in the lower 48.

Butch

Wow a 400 pound cat in the US. news to me.....jk

Several youtube videos of Dale Lee talking about hunting them in South America. Pretty interesting. I do believe they get bigger than a Mountain Lion. I know Dale said they were a lot harder on the dogs than Mountain Lions.

Gulo was awesome RIP, miss his posts

Actually, nearly twice as big.

Unlike cougars, they are a "large cat", like lions and tigers. Large cats roar, cougars don't.
Or so I've heard.

Yes the cats that roar are Panthera

Lion - Panthera Leo
Tiger - Panthera Tigris
Leopard -Panthera Pardus
Snow Leopard - Panthera Uncia
Jaguar - Panthera Onca


Other cats are Felis can scream but not roar

Mountian lion - Felis Concolor

EXCEPT for Cheetahs - they a Acinonyx Jubatas - due to is non retractable claws and other features, Cheetahs chirp like birds to call cubs and communicate

I went out to see some jaguar kills in eastern Ecuador. The farmer brought in a couple of cat tracking dogs from the coast but it didn't take long for the tigre to kill them both. I helped him follow some tracks in the jungle. I had a 1.75 coil spring trap which I placed over a track and it was the same size as the track. All we found of the remains of the last dog was an ear.

Yes, read this book and be prepared to hunt jaguar with a spear....

There is a member here who has a nearly 200lb book cougar fully mounted at eye level and standing there you can easily imagine the trouble you’d be in….

400lbs??? Guy’d need a bigger spear.

Osky

I’ll 2nd the book “Tigrero” - excellent reading!