Wood Cutting Again
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Yesterday at 12:51 PM
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I had a smaller tree get caught in the top of another tree and pulled it down with the tractor yesterday. I went back to cut it up today and across from where it was laying a big gum was making noise that concerned me.
Looks like it needs to come down as well but looks tricky.
Any suggestions?
-Goofy
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Re: Wood Cutting Again
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Yesterday at 01:09 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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hit around it about head high with the pole of your ax , listen for solid or hollow
pay attention to the lean
don't try and fight the lean and don't try and fight the wind
If you can find some solid holding wood and the lean and wind will work for you high stump it
if you can't let time and weather bring it down and keep clear of it till then.
if you can pull a line up into the top and pull from a distance with the tractor you might just be able to pull it over , requires enough line that is heavy enough to be out of the fall area.
with as dead as it is looks, watch for widow makers up high , wear your helmet and watch the crown while cutting a cutting partner is not a bad idea to call you off if they see bad movement
at the end of the day it's not worth injury or death for some fire wood so if you are not comfortable with it , leave it for a big storm to take it down and flag off around it a little and don't hang out there
if I was going to cut it finding some solid wood up where I could still decently reach with the saw , I would face cut , then plunge cut and get a generous hinge with a trigger left on the back of the tree , then make the cut to pull the trigger and get out of there
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; Yesterday at 01:11 PM.
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Re: Wood Cutting Again
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Yesterday at 01:10 PM
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Normally, I look forward to a good challenge but I don’t know if it’s that I’m older or that I have the wrong color saw but something is making me a bit uneasy contemplating this tree’s falling. Did I mention there is a building to the right and left of it?
-Goofy
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Re: Wood Cutting Again
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with a building to either side of it and it needs to come down , then I would rent a lift and on a calm day cut it down peice by peice from the top or hire it out
I had a big tree hanging over my house that needed to come down , I hired it out to a guy with a bucket truck , only asked that get it down lower than the eves of my house I would do all the clean up and finish it from there , he charged my 450 dollars cash to do it , probably the best 450 I spent on a tree
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Re: Wood Cutting Again
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Yesterday at 01:36 PM
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That thing has barberchair written all over it.
If I was going to drop that tree this is how ide do it, I'm not advising you do it but this is how ide do it.
Get a good rope up high with a throwline, going to need to be a fairly long rope. I would notch the side oppisite of the decay on the bottom, you can see the cracks that want to open up if you drop it the other way. I would also put a few heavy ratchet straps on it just to help hold it together. I would do a nice flat back cut leaving approx 1.5 or 2 inches of hinge, I would then pull the whole tree over from a distance with a tractor or truck.
If my saw got stuck I would check out quickly, reevaluate then probably pull the bar off the saw and leave it there, I would get the sawhead away and go pull the tree with tractor or truck. To many guys get killed trying to save a saw or bar, it aint worth it.
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Re: Wood Cutting Again
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Yesterday at 01:58 PM
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That thing has barberchair written all over it.
If I was going to drop that tree this is how ide do it, I'm not advising you do it but this is how ide do it.
Get a good rope up high with a throwline, going to need to be a fairly long rope. I would notch the side oppisite of the decay on the bottom, you can see the cracks that want to open up if you drop it the other way. I would also put a few heavy ratchet straps on it just to help hold it together. I would do a nice flat back cut leaving approx 1.5 or 2 inches of hinge, I would then pull the whole tree over from a distance with a tractor or truck.
If my saw got stuck I would check out quickly, reevaluate then probably pull the bar off the saw and leave it there, I would get the sawhead away and go pull the tree with tractor or truck. To many guys get killed trying to save a saw or bar, it aint worth it. Appreciate all the info Donner!
-Goofy
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Couple days ago a young guy was killed only 6 miles from me. Got hit by a dead ash tree limb as he sawed the trunk. about 10 years ago I got hit by a limb that wasn't even in the tree I was cutting , it was a dead snag hanging there , I had my forestry helmet on or it would have definitely messed up my head , a Y hit my on the back of the head then to my shoulders and pinned me to the ground. the Y was about 4 inches in diameter on each side and the entire limb around 15 feet long always wear that brain bucket I met a guy one time , his dad didn't come in from lunch he was about 10 , his mother sent him out to find his father , he was cutting standing dead in the winter and that widow maker live up to it's name saw was started in the tree and the old man was at the bottom of the tree hit in the head with a section of the tree that broke off and cracked him in the head.
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I had a smaller tree get caught in the top of another tree and pulled it down with the tractor yesterday. I went back to cut it up today and across from where it was laying a big gum was making noise that concerned me.
Looks like it needs to come down as well but looks tricky.
Any suggestions? Can you or someone you know get 1/4 or larger sticks of dynamite? We used some to take down some dangerous trees. It worked really well. With a long fuse inserted through the cap, you have plenty of time to move a safe difference. It's fun to work with too. You can drill a hole where you want it to break and insert the dynamite there. It would give you some guidance, but not perfect guidance of the fall. Keith
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There is a shed/garage to the right of it that the top would pretty much cover if it fell that way.
Would it being frozen help or be another concern?
I also am trying to clean up these dead standing for safety purposes. We are hoping to start having some weekend men’s group meetings/camping come spring or that’s the goal anyway.
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There is a shed/garage to the right of it that the top would pretty much cover if it fell that way.
Would it being frozen help or be another concern?
I also am trying to clean up these dead standing for safety purposes. We are hoping to start having some weekend men’s group meetings/camping come spring or that’s the goal anyway. I would not cut it frozen if I had the option to do it while it wasn't.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, & I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve
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There is a shed/garage to the right of it that the top would pretty much cover if it fell that way.
Would it being frozen help or be another concern?
I also am trying to clean up these dead standing for safety purposes. We are hoping to start having some weekend men’s group meetings/camping come spring or that’s the goal anyway. I would not cut it frozen if I had the option to do it while it wasn't. 10-4. Appreciate it!
-Goofy
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