Good afternoon fellas! I have a question for y'all. I know there are probably 1 million different answers, but I just want to hear from y'all since you have more experience than I do at trapping.

What is your opinion on using male coyote versus female coyote urine at sets? It seems that most companies just sell coyote urine and you don't know if it's coming from a male or female or somehow a mixture of both. Do you think it matters? Do you think there are times when 100% male urine or 100% female urine would be good to use instead of something unknown or a mixture that you would normally get online from some of these trapping websites? I found one company online, Carolina Coyote Solutions, that actually sells male and female coyote urine. Don't know if it is a gimmick or not. Just wanted y'all's opinion before spending money I don't need to spend.

Thanks for your time and tight chains.

Dave

We have and I have been using SMC Single male coyote urine for many years. It has its place for ADC and those special circumstances that it can give you the interest that makes the difference.

Herd urine is good for the most part if it is good urine.

Thank you for the response! I greatly appreciate it. Still trying to learn the ropes over here. I found your website just now and I have a quick question for you sir. What is Coyote Extendz Crystagel? Is that something to use in place of coyote urine or in addition to?

The Extendz urines have been developed into a syrup and the Crystalgel form, from their fluid state. These urines will reduce evaporation and extend the urine odor presence at your set. Very good for very dry and wet conditions.

Quality urine is much more important than single male or female in my opinion. 95% of the time. If I do want to use and individual urine of one animal and sex, I usually just collect from one of my dogs. Although I have also collected individual urine of wild coyotes and wolves and used with good results. How do I do that? Same way I collect my dogs, I find where they pee in the snow and scoop up the yellow snow into a ziploc bag. On wolves doing this from and individual in one pack and putting it in another packs territory can be very effective and for either coyote or wolf, taking some nice yellow snow out of a catch circle and using it can be very effective for picking up their mate or packmates that come around looking for the missing critter.

I've used urine from one of my dogs that is in heat with very good results, especially this time of year. They claim you can't store those pheromones but if you happen to have a female dog in heat at the right time, using it fresh is very effective.

While I haven't used Bob's SMC or Extendz urines, I can highly recommend his regular coyote urine, it is all I have used except for fresh that I've collected myself the last few years.

I am not going to argue with any trappers who have more experience than me but I have never seen one lick of difference in my catch rates when using any type of urine and not using urine. It seems to make no difference for me. I still use it most of the time though because I guess it just makes me feel better.

I'm assuming you don't make many pee posts. Unless it is a natural pee post you are setting blind, it's pretty tough to make a pee post set without pee.

Otherwise you may be correct, I sometimes use urine in conjunction with gland lures on flat sets, and sometimes not. I will often shoot turds with a shot of urine, but very seldom use it with any baited or non gland lure sets.

Yeah urine posts need it obviously. But I've never seen a difference in baited/food or curiosity lure sets.

Hey Dave !

As someone new to coyote trapping, I would concentrate more on the basics and perfecting your skill set and methods.
That is what catches you more coyotes in the end.

Learn to read sign, pinpoint set locations, make quality set looks, blend and duff, practice scent control, & make counter moves.
Those are just a few of the skills you need to reel in Wile E. on a consistent basis.

Simply adding a top shelf attractant to your arsenal does not automatically guarantee catches or raise your skill level.


If you have not bought James Lucero’s "Master Wolfer" I would highly recommend doing so.

Pay close attention to how much emphasis Lucero puts on scent control.

There is a real good reason for that.

Attractant selection is a mere side note compared to scent control in terms of importance.

People use dog pee for coyote sets, and some guys use their dog bedding and pee for wolves. Guys will bring their dogs trapping and set where the dog pees. So, I'm not too sure if what type of pee matters. Even deer hunting. I still pee in a scrape and the buck still use it. Have camera pics of coyotes visiting it as well. One old timer told me pee is pee. He may be right. I use fox pee and catch coyotes?? I use coyote pee and catch fox??

But during mating season I would think a female coyote will have certain pheromones in it that will be attractive to male coyotes.

Jan Feb female urine is pretty slick. It’s their breeding season. Keep in mind that the “in heat” fermions dissipate pretty darn quick so it probably doesn’t matter much with coyotes, they’re pretty curious. Careful with wolf though, there’s a ton of info in urine that’ll be big red flags to a wolf other than uneducated pups. I just use existing posts…….why risk contaminating the set? There’s already your scent plus the steel around, then you’d be adding some weird pee. They’ll be coming back already.
Having said that, what do the top predator trappers sometimes use to cover the sent of a set………friggin pee……lol
I usually don't use any, but others claim success.