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The 1920’s #8560679
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I’ve been reading some articles and talking to friends and reference’s to the 1920’s keep coming up, especially the later half, some of the similarities are over production in agriculture, a government that seems to believe in the “freedom to farm” and with trying to spend less I’m guessing that CRP acres will be reduced putting more ground into production, land is greatly over valued, a stock market that is extremely high with the chance of a major drop a possibility, a lot of personal debt, a high money supply, the one oddity is that the metals are moving greatly in the 20’s this didn’t happen. I was wondering with these point what other people are thinking?

Re: The 1920’s [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8560697
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From what i have read the 20s here is when farming changed from cotton to tobacco. Overproduction of cotton and the depression killed the price. And now tobacco is mostly gone except for a few large producers. Grain farmers out west are in dire straits now for sure. I am seeing my countys formerly agriculture landscape go to development very quickly as it is the fastest growing county in NC out of 100. County is about to pass a unified development ordinance that limits head of livestock per acre and lots of other things in 691 pages of rules. Long story short your land here is worth more to the government with 100 houses on it than 100 cows on it and their long term goal is to regulate you off of it. Rant over carry on

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Metal prices were set by the government and all paper money was backed by gold or silver


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: The 1920’s [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8560711
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My property taxes shot up another $1100.00 this year, after going up the last two as well. That was an unpleasant surprise for today.

Keith

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They reevaluated us also a lot of peoples assessments doubled from last year.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
My property taxes shot up another $1100.00 this year, after going up the last two as well. That was an unpleasant surprise for today.

Keith

Is your tax rate higher or your property valued higher? If the latter do you agree that it is worth what they say it is?


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Why do you think CRP acres will be reduced? Some of the crop insurance subsidies should be ended, particularly in poor ground, force it back into pasture, the additional cattle consume corn grown on less acres and we consume the cattle domestically.

The guys who I'm seeing may be in trouble are the ones who kept saying "they don't make any more if it" and bought ground that won't cash flow for 40 years now


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by KeithC
My property taxes shot up another $1100.00 this year, after going up the last two as well. That was an unpleasant surprise for today.

Keith

Is your tax rate higher or your property valued higher? If the latter do you agree that it is worth what they say it is?


They keep raising what they believe my property is valued at. Last year, it supposedly was worth $369,000.00 more than I paid 12 years before for it. I should see what is involved in getting a lower estimation. I don't honestly know if it's a fair evaluation, but it is similar to what sites like Zillow say.

The Ohio conservative governor candidates are mostly talking about doing away with property taxes. I think they should. You don't really own something if it can be quickly taken away if you don't pay a mandatory fee to keep it.

Keith

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why do you think CRP acres will be reduced? Some of the crop insurance subsidies should be ended, particularly in poor ground, force it back into pasture, the additional cattle consume corn grown on less acres and we consume the cattle domestically.

The guys who I'm seeing may be in trouble are the ones who kept saying "they don't make any more if it" and bought ground that won't cash flow for 40 years now


With reduction in spending CRP and the like are very easy ways to reduce the USDA budget while increasing production and driving down the price further, right now we are looking at a 2 billion bushel carry out and if things go the same as last year it’s easy to add another 1 billion to that and have at least a 3 billion bushel carry out after this year, its next to impossible to feed that much corn.

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Some of the things have changed, some are still the same. My mom and dad said that many farms were lost not because they couldn't pay the mortgage but because they couldn't pay the taxes. Then they borrowed the money to pay the taxes and couldn't pay that back, then lost their farm. People that had some money in the bank had it stole when the banks went under and only got 10 cents on the dollar. Many of the bankers came out rich. When they would take farms they would keep the mineral rights from under them because they had to pay no taxes on the mineral rights. The banks themselves were dissolved but many of the stock holders came out rich. Federal insurance on deposits has since helped with that problem along with the bank examiners helped stop some of the inside stealing, unless they are too big to fail of course.
We farmers like to have pride in being in control of conservation but many times the bottom line is what rules. The fox running the chicken house didn't work out well in the dust bowl days and it was soon seen that the group couldn't operate without oversight from big brother. Of course when big brother helps, complete control is always a threat. Putting a chicken in every pot and getting that vote is a big incentive to maintain control. Lets just face it, if there wasn't some oversight in conservation the land would be down the Mississippi. The land isn't lost, just relocated to the Delta, lol. The gov has been watching over us to protect us from ourselves since the days of Joseph in Egypt.
In Plato's ideal society known as the Republic there are 3 main classes. The Kings who rule, the soldier who keep the rule of law and order and the worker bee who does the work. Its the workers job to put the nectar in the honey pot up at the top and if there is any left at the top it will overflow and trickle back down to the worker bee. If he complains he is expendable and easily replaced by those from a segment that hasn't caught on to the system yet. Just be still and pay your consumption tax and be HAPPY, lol!


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