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High content nicotine products #8566160
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I quit chewing by using nicotine lozenges from Walmart. Then started chewing again. Now I have been using the 4mg lozenges again and havent craved a dip at all in several months. But still on the 4mg lozenges-maybe 5 of them per day. Probably not great for me but I figure better than chewing.
I have buddies using these new nicotine pouches that are 12 mg or more. I googled them and see them going up to 20 mg. Anyone using these things? How does your heart feel on them? Seems like theyre pretty extreme. I never smoked but these 4’s satisfy all the cravings I have from chewing. Whats the deal with these things?

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566171
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60mg of nicotine has long been claimed to be fatal to a 150 pound human being, but that's likely the lowest dose that could kill somebody that size and definitely wouldn't kill everyone. There's so many other factors like the absorption rate and everyone's individual biology. I think there is a big danger from a child potentially finding and consuming several sticks of gum, pouches or lozenges with a high nicotine level, or drinking e juice, which is often flavored like candy.

Most products have a much higher safety margin than they let people know about.

I would suggest talking to your doctor and then based on their advice, maybe trying a nicotine pouch and seeing how you react to it.

Keith

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566174
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… I run on nicotine and alcohol … for how long is to be determined I guess


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Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566233
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I know several guys that have quit chewing but are now hooked on the nicotine pouches. Also a couple guys that quit smoking but now suck on those vape things. Doesn't seem like any gain to me - just trading one form of addiction for another. They can't seem to take that next step, which I think is pretty common, and probably by design.

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: trapdog1] #8566261
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I know several guys that have quit chewing but are now hooked on the nicotine pouches. Also a couple guys that quit smoking but now suck on those vape things. Doesn't seem like any gain to me - just trading one form of addiction for another. They can't seem to take that next step, which I think is pretty common, and probably by design.


Vaping is not a draining on the lungs. No weazing, can still run (if you are young enough)
Way cheaper than smoking. One 20$ vape will last a month.
I hit a 50mg


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I wonder if there will be enough coffee and middle fingers to make it through the day.

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566279
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Have you tried Chantix? It worked for me but man I had some seriously wild dreams!!

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: trapdog1] #8566281
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I know several guys that have quit chewing but are now hooked on the nicotine pouches. Also a couple guys that quit smoking but now suck on those vape things. Doesn't seem like any gain to me - just trading one form of addiction for another. They can't seem to take that next step, which I think is pretty common, and probably by design.

They are not cancer causing. But you are correct, it is designed to be trading one addiction for another. I use the pouches, 6mg Velo plus. Used the 4mg Velo when I quit chewing the last time, but it was hard to find sometimes and I would pick up the 7mg if that was all they had. Then they changed to the Velo plus and quit making the regular Velo, the Plus supposedly comes in 3, 6 and 9mg but almost all the stores just carry the 6mg. The plus tastes better and lasts longer than the original so that is good. Still not as tasty as Copenhagen, but healthier. I've quit chewing a few times over the years, I might make it a couple years but when I get around people that are chewing that Copenhagen smells so dang good I would end up starting again if I don't have some nicotine crutch.

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Same as bearcat, except ON’s. I use two 8 mg same time. Three in the morning. Been off cope for three years. Yes, I’m addicted to nicotine. And? Tolerance builds over time. Drink a lot of coffee too. I’ve tried Zyn and Velo. Like the ON’s better.


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Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566330
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I dipped and chewed for 33 years. Quit with the pouches. Got addicted to them for a few years. Quit pouches about a year ago. Chew plain gum now like a maniac.

Miss dipping everyday!

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: BvrRetriever] #8566337
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Have you tried Chantix? It worked for me but man I had some seriously wild dreams!!


I had “champiix” in my head for some reason, but either way, me too and me too! My dreams could have been Quentin Tarantino films.

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566539
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A cousin chewed the gum, wore the patch and still smoked a couple packs a day, so I’m not sure what level of nicotine he took in everyday but it had to be high and that’s not what killed him.

Re: High content nicotine products [Re: DWC] #8566633
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I quit an almost 30 year Copenhagen snuff habit a few years ago.

This stuff was a lifesaver.

https://blackbuffalo.com/products/straight-long-cut-5-can-roll

They make a zero nicotine version too so you can kind of wean off the nicotine.



Coming up on three years tobacco free. Still crave it at least once a day to this day.

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