Only had luck using them (pans) in cubbies so i left that one where I left the cubby (for mink). It is good for a baited set for skunks as Mchewk stated BUT ---- it pretty much resolves that trap to that set and I lose the flexibility of any site. I set a goodly # of holes and trails w/BG's (110 size to 220 size) on dry land, water logs, water channels etc.. As alaska said, "set them so the pan is oriented". Well, I am not smart enough to Know if my quarry is down the hole coming out or outside going in or ,,, coming from the left side of the trail/log/channel headed right or on the right side of the trail/log/channel headed left. Since horizontal cubbies are not very effective for mink here, if I use one, I skip the pan and position the trigger on the bottom. MY Experience you can quote me - "You will catch more mink with their feet hitting a trigger than their shoulders" and whether its a foot trap or BG, I set so their "dancing" gets them more consistently into my shed than a lasso around their body does. ..........................the mike..... P. S. I have no qualms setting a 120 or 160 BG size for/over a badger hole and have caught my share of badgers, mink, coons, rabbits, skunks and opossums with a bottom trigger and firmly believe I would not have if I used a pan............... the mike again