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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
[Re: Scott__aR]
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02/26/26 08:51 AM
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CWD is not the same disease as Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) in humans.
CWD by its current name was first identified in the US in 1967, nearly 60 years ago. In all that time, there is no known case of CWD being transmitted to a human; although, science has speculated, that in theory, it may be possible. Not going to say it's not possible, but based on history, I like the statistical odds. That's not to say that it's not prudent to take precautions while harvesting and processing animals for consumption.
In Wisconsin, when first identified, the state tried the area herd reduction/elimination management route, it didn't work for various reasons and new areas of infestation occur even today despite all the state's efforts and regulations.
What is known about CWD: 1) an infected cervid will die within 24 months of being infected. 2) the most recognized transmission of CWD is by direct cervid' fluid contact. 3) infected cervids shed prions into the environment until death. 4) those shed prions can live for up to several decades in the environment, to be reintroduced to the cervid population through forage and soil.
It is obvious that based on what is known about the disease today, nothing short of an unified total scorched earth management policy over decades will eliminate the disease.
Will the cervids develope an immunity to the disease over time, we can only hope. But we must recognize that nature will always take care of itself, regardless of human interventions, one way or another. Facts^^^^
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
[Re: NonPCfed]
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02/26/26 11:45 AM
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Yes, CWD has been reported in Canada (both species of deer, elk and moose), Norway (reindeer and moose), Finland (moose), Sweden (moose), and South Korea (farm raised elk).
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
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02/26/26 11:47 AM
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Google search & screenshot was the quickest way for me to answer... Scott_aR beat me to it...lol ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/02/full-11603-286591-1000003899.jpg)
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
[Re: 3togo]
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03/04/26 07:59 PM
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
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03/04/26 08:00 PM
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So, what's everyone's thoughts. Has CDW been on earth longer than anyone knows and is on its 2nd, 3rd, etc go around, or????
Prions carried around the world on wind currents?
Any speculation? I think it's nothing to worry about.
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
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03/04/26 08:05 PM
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So, what's everyone's thoughts. Has CDW been on earth longer than anyone knows and is on its 2nd, 3rd, etc go around, or????
Prions carried around the world on wind currents?
Any speculation? I think it's nothing to worry about. You are correct.....if you don't care anything about deer.
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
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03/04/26 10:24 PM
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
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03/06/26 09:57 PM
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Swamp Wolf , i understand you're not a biologist . However, GWs do receive some wildlife biology instruction either at the collegiate or academy level.
What do you think the chances are of effected populations gaining a form of immunity from it ? Don't worry about timelines, that'd be anyone's guess. Aaron, I think there is a possibility of a genetic alteration in deer over time. Nature has a way of correcting itself. I'm definitely not a biologist. Only have an associate's degree in wildlife. The state hired me to collect samples for CWD two years ago after I retired from LE. I sampled Georgia's first positive. I have a strong and vested interest in deer management so this was right up my alley. I have dedicated some time to learn as much about CWD as I can and trying to seperate fact from fiction. I was also chosen to be on the Statewide Deer Management Committee/Deer Disease Portion for some reason...lol SW, I just saw this reply. Appreciate it, bud.
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
[Re: NonPCfed]
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03/07/26 03:21 PM
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I know this is way too nit picky but prions are not living organisms in the current definition. They are more like an "end effect" of a process that messes with certain proteins.
An interesting response from Google (AI) when asked if they are living organisms:
No, prions are not considered living organisms . They are misfolded proteins that act as infectious agents, lacking genetic material (DNA or RNA), cellular structure, and independent metabolism. Often described as "zombies" of the infectious world, they reproduce by causing normal proteins in the brain to misfold, leading to fatal neurodegenerative diseases. Key details about prions:
Definition: Prions are "proteinaceous infectious particles" that cause diseases like Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD), bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or mad cow disease), and chronic wasting disease (CWD). Non-Living: They do not meet the criteria for life because they cannot reproduce on their own, consume energy, or evolve through natural selection in the way living organisms do. Propagation: They propagate by converting normal, functional cellular proteins (PrP) into the misfolded, infectious form. Resistance: Prions are extremely hardy and can survive standard sterilization methods such as boiling, radiation, and disinfectants, which would destroy bacteria or viruses. Discovery: Prions were identified by Stanley Prusiner in 1982, who later won a Nobel Prize for discovering this new principle of infection.
While they can replicate and cause disease, they are molecular anomalies, not living, biological entities.
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Re: The possibility of CWD vs the reality of breast...
[Re: NonPCfed]
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03/07/26 03:33 PM
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And still, one of the the main points of my original post is why we, as a society, tolerate one in eight women getting breast cancer whereas certain regulatory aspects of various administrative states get wound up about CWD?
I guarantee that breast cancer will kill more woman in the U.S. this year than any prion based disease. But treating cancer is a trillion+ $$ business a year AND the easiest way not to have large families is to put women on hormones that mess with their reproductive cycles.But its not without tradeoffs. So, its easier for some parts of the overall administrative state to go chase down new boogeymen than to make society change one of their big current habits.
Probably just rhetorical "air punching" by me at this point...
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