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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: bblwi] #8582850
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Originally Posted by bblwi
The USA needs a independent Fed, not bullied, swayed or pressured by either party or any politics. We live in an economy where inflation is not controlled nearly as much by supply, demand, interest ratesor even the value of the dollar in some respects. We have inflation driven by the supply of money as we can and do print money at will we need an independent and a fed board that is knowledgeable about how the money supply impacts our inflation and economy, thus making the need to be independent. To me it is too bad we needed to have the judicial system even have to be involved in keeping the fed indpependent.

Bryce


X2. Very well said Bryce.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8582855
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So who oversees and insures the ongoing integrity of the Fed seven or the other 5 members of the Federal Open Market Committee after they have been appointed and confirmed?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8582868
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The President can remove board members "For Cause"

""For cause" is generally interpreted to mean serious misconduct, inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office, not mere policy disagreements. "


Who is John Galt?
Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: BigBlackBirds] #8582916
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Originally Posted by BigBlackBirds
Can we get a reincarnated Volcker

Volcker was my uncles golf partner. As much as I respected my uncle, I'm not so sure I'd agree with your sentiment.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8582929
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Getting rammed thru, when everyone had left for Christmas break wasn’t by accident,,,

Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8582950
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How long can the clowns keep juggling the plates in this circus? I keep hearing 25% of taxes collected today is used to pay interest on the debt. The debt keeps growing.

If the rates are cut we get more of our old friend inflation.

If not we get a drop in the stock market and a lower GDP. Unemployment goes up.

I am very open to any corrections. I am no financial expert. My opinion is in spite of the current view that the dollar is still on firm ground it is instead a bit wobbly.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8582983
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"Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook’s job seemed safe from firing by President Donald Trump after Supreme Court justices skeptically questioned the Trump administration’s lawyers on Wednesday about the grounds for Cook’s would-be termination and its effect on the Fed’s historical independence.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh warned Solicitor General D. John Sauer about the effects of his argument that Trump could fire Cook or other Fed governors “for cause” — but without judicial review of whether that purported cause of alleged mortgage fraud was legitimate.

“Your position that there’s no judicial review, no process required, no remedy available, very low bar for cause — that the president alone determines — and that would weaken, if not shatter, the independence of the Federal Reserve,” said Kavanaugh, one of the court’s six conservatives."


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Dirt] #8583040
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook’s job seemed safe from firing by President Donald Trump after Supreme Court justices skeptically questioned the Trump administration’s lawyers on Wednesday about the grounds for Cook’s would-be termination and its effect on the Fed’s historical independence.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh warned Solicitor General D. John Sauer about the effects of his argument that Trump could fire Cook or other Fed governors “for cause” — but without judicial review of whether that purported cause of alleged mortgage fraud was legitimate.

“Your position that there’s no judicial review, no process required, no remedy available, very low bar for cause — that the president alone determines — and that would weaken, if not shatter, the independence of the Federal Reserve,” said Kavanaugh, one of the court’s six conservatives."


Good!


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: danny clifton] #8583052
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
How long can the clowns keep juggling the plates in this circus? I keep hearing 25% of taxes collected today is used to pay interest on the debt. The debt keeps growing.

If the rates are cut we get more of our old friend inflation.

If not we get a drop in the stock market and a lower GDP. Unemployment goes up.

I am very open to any corrections. I am no financial expert. My opinion is in spite of the current view that the dollar is still on firm ground it is instead a bit wobbly.


You got the idea right.

But, are you seeing any signs of recession where you are? I'm sure not here....

Went to town the other day and everyone had out help wanted signs.

And it seems not much can keep this market down for long.

At the FOMC meeting this week, they will likely keep rates where they are........ as they should IMO.

But by the next meeting? If anything, they may need to RAISE rates, certainly not lower them.... despite what Trump wants........


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8583079
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The U.S. has full employment. Inflation is still above target. Should be raising rates. Dual mandate.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: Dirt] #8583081
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The U.S. has full employment. Inflation is still above target. Should be raising rates. Dual mandate.


I wouldn't complain if they raised them this week but you know they won't........

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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8583084
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Because pressure works


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8583090
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As recently as a couple weeks ago, Fed futures were pricing in up to three 25bp cuts by December of 2026.

As of two days ago Fed futures are not pricing a 100% chance of a 25 bp cut until June 2027.

Recall that immediately after the last 25bp cut......long term rates actually went up....not down. So the fed would be, IMO, pushing on a string at this point if they cut......which I can't see them doing.
It is also going to take a while for the increase in crude prices to filter through the economy even if the hostilities in the gulf stopped today.


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Re: Not political - Economical. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8583212
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Ang, things are good here. Lots of jobs. Fuel is going to hurt some this summer.

Put me in the camp that says the president has enough power. He doesn't need more. Regardless of who holds the office.


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