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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: bblwi]
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Yesterday at 10:24 PM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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The USA needs a independent Fed, not bullied, swayed or pressured by either party or any politics. We live in an economy where inflation is not controlled nearly as much by supply, demand, interest ratesor even the value of the dollar in some respects. We have inflation driven by the supply of money as we can and do print money at will we need an independent and a fed board that is knowledgeable about how the money supply impacts our inflation and economy, thus making the need to be independent. To me it is too bad we needed to have the judicial system even have to be involved in keeping the fed indpependent.
Bryce X2. Very well said Bryce.
The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Yesterday at 10:42 PM
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Wisconsin
Scott__aR
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So who oversees and insures the ongoing integrity of the Fed seven or the other 5 members of the Federal Open Market Committee after they have been appointed and confirmed?
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Yesterday at 10:55 PM
Yesterday at 10:55 PM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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The President can remove board members "For Cause"
""For cause" is generally interpreted to mean serious misconduct, inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office, not mere policy disagreements. "
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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12 hours ago
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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How long can the clowns keep juggling the plates in this circus? I keep hearing 25% of taxes collected today is used to pay interest on the debt. The debt keeps growing.
If the rates are cut we get more of our old friend inflation.
If not we get a drop in the stock market and a lower GDP. Unemployment goes up.
I am very open to any corrections. I am no financial expert. My opinion is in spite of the current view that the dollar is still on firm ground it is instead a bit wobbly.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Armpit, ak
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"Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook’s job seemed safe from firing by President Donald Trump after Supreme Court justices skeptically questioned the Trump administration’s lawyers on Wednesday about the grounds for Cook’s would-be termination and its effect on the Fed’s historical independence.
Justice Brett Kavanaugh warned Solicitor General D. John Sauer about the effects of his argument that Trump could fire Cook or other Fed governors “for cause” — but without judicial review of whether that purported cause of alleged mortgage fraud was legitimate.
“Your position that there’s no judicial review, no process required, no remedy available, very low bar for cause — that the president alone determines — and that would weaken, if not shatter, the independence of the Federal Reserve,” said Kavanaugh, one of the court’s six conservatives."
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: Dirt]
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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"Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook’s job seemed safe from firing by President Donald Trump after Supreme Court justices skeptically questioned the Trump administration’s lawyers on Wednesday about the grounds for Cook’s would-be termination and its effect on the Fed’s historical independence.
Justice Brett Kavanaugh warned Solicitor General D. John Sauer about the effects of his argument that Trump could fire Cook or other Fed governors “for cause” — but without judicial review of whether that purported cause of alleged mortgage fraud was legitimate.
“Your position that there’s no judicial review, no process required, no remedy available, very low bar for cause — that the president alone determines — and that would weaken, if not shatter, the independence of the Federal Reserve,” said Kavanaugh, one of the court’s six conservatives." Good!
The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: danny clifton]
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yotetrapper30
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How long can the clowns keep juggling the plates in this circus? I keep hearing 25% of taxes collected today is used to pay interest on the debt. The debt keeps growing.
If the rates are cut we get more of our old friend inflation.
If not we get a drop in the stock market and a lower GDP. Unemployment goes up.
I am very open to any corrections. I am no financial expert. My opinion is in spite of the current view that the dollar is still on firm ground it is instead a bit wobbly. You got the idea right. But, are you seeing any signs of recession where you are? I'm sure not here.... Went to town the other day and everyone had out help wanted signs. And it seems not much can keep this market down for long. At the FOMC meeting this week, they will likely keep rates where they are........ as they should IMO. But by the next meeting? If anything, they may need to RAISE rates, certainly not lower them.... despite what Trump wants........
The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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The U.S. has full employment. Inflation is still above target. Should be raising rates. Dual mandate.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: Dirt]
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8 hours ago
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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The U.S. has full employment. Inflation is still above target. Should be raising rates. Dual mandate. I wouldn't complain if they raised them this week but you know they won't........
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The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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Ang, things are good here. Lots of jobs. Fuel is going to hurt some this summer.
Put me in the camp that says the president has enough power. He doesn't need more. Regardless of who holds the office.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Steven 49er
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While the Fed issues it, it is technically printed by the Treasury....
Not to nit pick most currency that is "printed" by the treasure is used to replace existing currency in circulation. Approximately 80 85 percent. Most new money that is created is digital. Doesn't matter who prints debt backed currency the fed owns it. The treasury owns coinage, technically the treasury could print trillion dollar coins and use it to pay debt and it wouldn't add to the money supply. Would be a very short sighted decision that has been flouted by short sighted politicians.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Armpit, ak
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Stagflation requires" high unemployment". Since we have a labor shortage, I believe this may not happen.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Not political - Economical.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#8583299
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Northern MN
Osky
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Northern MN
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Getting to the base of the issue, justice is meant to be blind. The self acclaimed activist judge Boseard should be nowhere near this decision nor a court room period. There are many others wearing robes who shouldn’t as well.
Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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