Guys,,, I personally like 160s because I feel that 160s kill a coon faster.. just my opinion. And I really like them.
But this past season I really got to thinking,,, am I getting more refusals than I realize because of the smaller size compared to the 220??
I know some guys who use the 5x5 for raccoon in boxes because of limited regulations , do kill raccoon,, but they do get more refusals.

Any of you guys with cameras ever catch this on your camera???

When I started doing my own ADC work, I started with buckets......set in front of game cameras. Won't share the details here, but suffice to say my first catch was less than impressive. Coon was found dead......but. So that spawned a research project to do better......and that included setting various traps in various boxes......(including one with plexi-glass side to watch the trap fire) and all of them in front of game cameras to watch them work the traps. I should also mention I trap in an area populated by barn cats and possible neighbor's pets, so follow letter and spirit of our trapping rules to avoid any chance of incidentals.

So what I found was vast majority of coon will first setup shop in front of horizontal box or bucket and reach in. Few, if any, just poke their head in and go.They only go in as last resort. But take same box and move it to vertical........bait shelf up top.......and once trained to go in, will race each other to see who gets caught first. If opening in the bottom is blocked down to 3 to 4 inches, they still go in, but have to slither under the opening, they arch their back and push up with front paws, pushing forward with back feet. They lead with the forehead and fire the trap pushing up with forehead and that leads to a near perfect neck strike every time. Again, same wood box as others, just set vertical. Tied or lashed to a post, wall.......or could be fence post or tree. That also eliminates nearly all incidentals.

Most 160's are simply scaled up 5 x 5 or even 120's.....same wire. Belisle and Bridger are made of sterner stuff.........220's scaled down in size. Belisle 160 is an absolute hammer. Bridger 160 is also, but triggers suck pond water........have to be replaced to make work. So bottom line........Belisle 160 or a 220 in a vertical box is what I have now. They will pound the coon.

I like the 160 magnum traps in my boxes...tight closure helps a lot.
John have you caught any fox or coyotes in your boxes yet? I know
the Minnesota guys catch bobcats in their boxes.

When I started doing my own ADC work, I started with buckets......set in front of game cameras. Won't share the details here, but suffice to say my first catch was less than impressive. Coon was found dead......but. So that spawned a research project to do better......and that included setting various traps in various boxes......(including one with plexi-glass side to watch the trap fire) and all of them in front of game cameras to watch them work the traps. I should also mention I trap in an area populated by barn cats and possible neighbor's pets, so follow letter and spirit of our trapping rules to avoid any chance of incidentals.

So what I found was vast majority of coon will first setup shop in front of horizontal box or bucket and reach in. Few, if any, just poke their head in and go.They only go in as last resort. But take same box and move it to vertical........bait shelf up top.......and once trained to go in, will race each other to see who gets caught first. If opening in the bottom is blocked down to 3 to 4 inches, they still go in, but have to slither under the opening, they arch their back and push up with front paws, pushing forward with back feet. They lead with the forehead and fire the trap pushing up with forehead and that leads to a near perfect neck strike every time. Again, same wood box as others, just set vertical. Tied or lashed to a post, wall.......or could be fence post or tree. That also eliminates nearly all incidentals.

Most 160's are simply scaled up 5 x 5 or even 120's.....same wire. Belisle and Bridger are made of sterner stuff.........220's scaled down in size. Belisle 160 is an absolute hammer. Bridger 160 is also, but triggers suck pond water........have to be replaced to make work. So bottom line........Belisle 160 or a 220 in a vertical box is what I have now. They will pound the coon.

When I started doing my own ADC work, I started with buckets......set in front of game cameras. Won't share the details here, but suffice to say my first catch was less than impressive. Coon was found dead......but. So that spawned a research project to do better......and that included setting various traps in various boxes......(including one with plexi-glass side to watch the trap fire) and all of them in front of game cameras to watch them work the traps. I should also mention I trap in an area populated by barn cats and possible neighbor's pets, so follow letter and spirit of our trapping rules to avoid any chance of incidentals.

So what I found was vast majority of coon will first setup shop in front of horizontal box or bucket and reach in. Few, if any, just poke their head in and go.They only go in as last resort. But take same box and move it to vertical........bait shelf up top.......and once trained to go in, will race each other to see who gets caught first. If opening in the bottom is blocked down to 3 to 4 inches, they still go in, but have to slither under the opening, they arch their back and push up with front paws, pushing forward with back feet. They lead with the forehead and fire the trap pushing up with forehead and that leads to a near perfect neck strike every time. Again, same wood box as others, just set vertical. Tied or lashed to a post, wall.......or could be fence post or tree. That also eliminates nearly all incidentals.

Most 160's are simply scaled up 5 x 5 or even 120's.....same wire. Belisle and Bridger are made of sterner stuff.........220's scaled down in size. Belisle 160 is an absolute hammer. Bridger 160 is also, but triggers suck pond water........have to be replaced to make work. So bottom line........Belisle 160 or a 220 in a vertical box is what I have now. They will pound the coon.

You will catch more coon with fewer refusals imo in 220s. You can catch some big coon in 160s but you put a 160 inside a 220 and look at the difference . I think your refusal percentage would be higher and some of it would be determined by time of year and how hungry that coon is with boxes or pails. In trails the 220 rules with no exceptions.