I've been debt free for 62 years. I wonder if I will set the record?

That $11k seems high for folks on this site. But it feels a little low for the country in general.
That must not include mortgages?
Jim

Yep,
There's good debt and bad debt. Seems this Dave guy is talking more to folks who work 9-5 like the Cleavers.

Talk to business owners and you'll see borrowing money can be beneficial and most time required to expand. I doubt very many were ever debt free.

Consumer debt. Not mortgages.

Im about 22 years into a 30 year plan. Good luck to everyone else.

Got a question for guys on here. Seems different take it would love to hear reasons for thinking how some do. Why work if you can’t or won’t enjoy the money you make? If driving an old pos vehicle that has you tinkering or jumping it constantly so you can stick money back worth it? What’s the use in “building “ a big bank account if you don’t enjoy it? You work all your life. Hand your kids wealth because you did without. You die. You ex remarried and burn through it. I’ve seen that happen way too much. I’ve gotten advice from one person that planned ahead but also seems to buy new things if he wants them. He may be in debt to his eyes but I doubt it.
I know everyone is in different situations. But I’m curious

Im pushing 40. 401k at work House truck and living expenses. Only invested in some gold coins in 2020 because the guy who’s helped me suggested it. ( That’s looking good)

Money gives you the leverage to live life on your own terms

I don’t seek wealth because I desire fancy things.

I seek wealth because I desire complete control over my time without having to anguish over the financial implications and not require any assistance from any government

Right now, as I type this,,

I’m standing crouch deep in the Caribbean Sea,,, it’s totally black out,,,, waiting for the sun to rise in about 30min

There’s no place i would rather be,,,,

It’s going to be an awesome day!!!!

Long term gain tax in USA is 15%, less than income tax rate for most people. If you keep your income below 98k married filing jointly you pay ZERO LT cap gains taxes.

It does tink to pay it but it less than fed income taxes for most and better than paying interest to buy a depreciating asset like a 70k truck.

Maybe its different in Canada tax law?

For the 2026 Tax Year (Filed in 2027):

0% Rate: Up to $49,450 (Single), $98,900 (Married Jointly).
15% Rate: $49,451–$545,500 (Single), $98,901–$613,700 (Married Jointly).
20% Rate: Over $545,500 (Single), Over $613,700 (Married Jointly).

Watch out for sharks?

Nice sounds amazing!!

correct. That figure is credit card debt not student loan, auto, and mortgages

I would prefer to not have debt but did not have cash to purchase a farm last year which I knew was valued at over 4x what I paid. Would you have not purchased it? I did. I went to the bank, got a loan and will have the farm paid off next year. So in 3 years, I quadrupled my money. Is debt always dumb?

Yes, I could have taken investments out, paid the tax penalty, missed the 17% annual earnings on the money last year and paid cash, but instead, I went into debt at 6.5% ag rate and quadrupled my money and diversified my investments with more land.......

Same here,

How ya think most businesses were started? Golden spoon money?

I would say you have lived an interesting life and should write a book of how you have done it. Did you purchase a house and land ever?

I think the 11.5 is just CC debt. Adding in other consumer debt would make it even higher.

Debt is very useful when used responsibly. 11500 is the average credit card debt? That number does not bode responsibility to me. I doubt many people charge and pay off that amount monthly. IMO with the crazy high interest rate on cards the only responsible way to use them is never pay any interest. Never pay an annual fee. Pay them off before the billing cycle is complete. Credit card interest is the kind of interest loan sharks charge. Lottery is just the old Mafia numbers game. Seems banks and governments are using lessons learned from old school gangsters.

Interest on the national debt is now 25% of tax income the government receives. Our whole economy is debt based. Makes me a little nervous.

IMO unless your under 50 years old debt free is a goal you should be reaching for in most cases.