Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: midlander]
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03/25/26 10:16 PM
03/25/26 10:16 PM
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I have with success when I used a drag or harrow and could run across it to get some seed cover. I guess you could say it wasn't a true test of frost seeding but it worked pretty darn good. I have broad casted with a spreader then harrowed in a few times back and forth did a great job. I had an old ranch homestead house pushed in last year and I did the same thing. The alfalfa is as thick as hair on a dog last fall and starting to green up on the crown a few days ago.
The ground was froze but not hard as a rock when I did mine. Did it several times through the years. When I just broad casted it and walked away not to good of luck then.
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: Bob_Iowa]
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03/26/26 06:22 AM
03/26/26 06:22 AM
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Used to do a lot of oats, just broadcast and disk them in. Ive done that too, but im referring to casting seed while snow is still on the ground and letting the freeze/thaw cycles in spring pull the seed into the ground. Thats what we refer as frost seeding in these parts....
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/26/26 06:41 AM
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Never understood that. The seed will just lay there until the soil temp raises so it can germinate. If any of it rots or is eaten then there are that many seed less that can sprout. Wait until first of april. It will come up faster and have a better chance at making it. If you are working it in that's not what old timers around here called frost seeding. They threw it on top of the snow or the ground when it froze. All i saw was every bird in the country eating it when on the snow. According to the old timers, it wont just lay there. The multiple freeze/thaw cycles in early spring pull the seed down and allow it to germinate when the temps rise. Must be something to it or it wouldn't have been done to the extent it was. It apparently also allowed for seeding areas, such as lightly forested areas that equipment couldnt access, to be seeded with forage crops. It also allowed traditional wetter areas, where equipment would not be able to work until much later than other areas, to be seeded and have traditional germination times.
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: midlander]
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03/26/26 07:29 AM
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Like I said, my experience with frost seeding is I never had a good stand. Maybe 20% at best and when I helped it out with just a little soil cover or compaction the results were very good. Like one posted a roller after the cracking of soil has happened after a few day of the frost thaw event has happened then roll it it made a huge difference for success. Just my experience.
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: midlander]
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03/29/26 02:38 AM
03/29/26 02:38 AM
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Try to put it on before a storm. It'll help push it in.
Last edited by AJE; 03/29/26 02:38 AM.
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: midlander]
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03/29/26 10:23 AM
03/29/26 10:23 AM
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Used to do a lot of oats, just broadcast and disk them in. Ive done that too, but im referring to casting seed while snow is still on the ground and letting the freeze/thaw cycles in spring pull the seed into the ground. Thats what we refer as frost seeding in these parts.... That makes sense with oats here it’s just froze on top no snow, the only time I’ve heard of using snow was some people did it with radishes in a garden sometimes worked sometimes didn’t.
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Re: Frost seeding...
[Re: midlander]
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03/29/26 10:53 AM
03/29/26 10:53 AM
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Never understood that. The seed will just lay there until the soil temp raises so it can germinate. If any of it rots or is eaten then there are that many seed less that can sprout. Wait until first of april. It will come up faster and have a better chance at making it. If you are working it in that's not what old timers around here called frost seeding. They threw it on top of the snow or the ground when it froze. All i saw was every bird in the country eating it when on the snow. According to the old timers, it wont just lay there. The multiple freeze/thaw cycles in early spring pull the seed down and allow it to germinate when the temps rise. Must be something to it or it wouldn't have been done to the extent it was. It apparently also allowed for seeding areas, such as lightly forested areas that equipment couldnt access, to be seeded with forage crops. It also allowed traditional wetter areas, where equipment would not be able to work until much later than other areas, to be seeded and have traditional germination times. Yeah it pretty much just lays there whether on top of the ground or sunken in until the soil temp gets right. But you must understand the origin of the practice. Back when "old timers" did it for most that was the only way to sow seed. Very few had the equipment to tear up the ground surface to get soil contact. Tell you what you do. IF you have access to a disc frost seed have of an area and disc up the other. Sow the disc part 2nd week in april. Of course the frost part has to be done lot earlier. Post pics of the stand of grass/ clover. I'm not saying it doesn't work. Just saying if you work the ground up the seed has a better chance to sprout and get a start...
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