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Tough otter #8593463
04/03/26 04:16 PM
04/03/26 04:16 PM
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Took the otter pelt out of the freezer that I caught last week. It weighed 26 lbs and stretched 64 inches nose to tip of tail. Had to use a mink stretcher as an extension for tail to fit.
After fleshing I concluded that this was the toughest otter I've ever fleshed. Didn't have much fat on it , mostly just meat, membrane, and tissue. Kind of reminded me of fleshing a tough old coyote. Season ended in this zone now.
I caught my 1st otter in 1974 in a 14# jump in a blind set and have caught my share since then. Hope I can catch a few more in future seasons. Have to fasten cites tag before I forget. Lol


Walt legge
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593469
04/03/26 04:24 PM
04/03/26 04:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
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You did a good job on the fleshing and yes....Otter with little to no fat are much harder to flesh.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593483
04/03/26 04:42 PM
04/03/26 04:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
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Nice looking work there. Could tell it wasn't your first.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593521
04/03/26 06:35 PM
04/03/26 06:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Frazee, MN
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Nice work and nice otter. To me otter are hardest to work on.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593522
04/03/26 06:36 PM
04/03/26 06:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
east central WI
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Great looking otter Walt. Thats a biggun for sure.


"in the midst of a savage wilderness to depend entirely upon their unassisted strength and hardihood"
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593523
04/03/26 06:42 PM
04/03/26 06:42 PM
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Wisconsin
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As usual, beautiful work, Walt! A lot better than Andar would have done!

Moosetrot

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593542
04/03/26 07:20 PM
04/03/26 07:20 PM
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Northern Illinois
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Nice work Walt! I hope you catch a pile more.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593552
04/03/26 07:52 PM
04/03/26 07:52 PM
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Very nice put up. I use a piece of a Coroplast road sign for an extension, if needed.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593553
04/03/26 07:54 PM
04/03/26 07:54 PM
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Wisconsin
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Nice otter Walt. I caught two this season and both of them had very little fat. One had all kinds of tick marks on it's back so I'm pretty sure it will be graded damaged the next auction.

I love the statement that you'd better get the tag on.


59 years trapping. It's who I am. Every day is still as exciting as it was when I was a kid but a little more work.
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593590
04/03/26 09:16 PM
04/03/26 09:16 PM
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Nice work, Walt. Otter, to me, are the most labor intensive animal, for the money.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593626
04/03/26 10:40 PM
04/03/26 10:40 PM
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Fleshing a lean otter is almost like trying to flesh the hull off a battleship. There has to be a better way. I made a beam out of a piece of 2x3, rounded the top and nose as needed and mounted it on the wall. The most fat is around the hips and is like the frosting on the cake. I know I`m not supposed to eat that first, but this is the exception. I flesh the bottom 6" or so, and clean up the tail while I`m there. Slip the pelt off the beam, spin it around and slide the mouth down the beam until you get to where you fleshed the bottom, now start your fleshing again only now your going towards the head. Going up the pelt, your going with the grain of the hair roots, not against them like when we go top to bottom. I guarantee it`s a world of difference. Good luck.


The Beaver and the Bear will show the way.
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593642
04/03/26 11:25 PM
04/03/26 11:25 PM
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wisconsin
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Just a sidenote on this catch. I caught it in a blind set in a MB 1216 at the outlet of a spring fed slough which drains into a medium size creek. I usually put a set or two here every winter as the creek stays open all winter due to the many springs. I usually catch an otter or two if they travel through.
This year I had to sort through the other furbearers that also travel in and out of the slough. The 1216 accounted for 2 muskrats, 2 beaver, and a mink before the otter catch. As is typical of most otter trapping it is a waiting game
and keeping the trap operating is the key. Not only was it tough to flesh, but proved to be a tough catch.


Walt legge
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593649
04/03/26 11:51 PM
04/03/26 11:51 PM
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Sumner, Mo.
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I guess I’m weird, but I like putting up otter.
I scraped and dried 65 this winter, and one stood out as way worse than the rest. In fact that otter really made the skinning machine moan way more than most. Sure glad they aren’t all like that lol.
I see you all talking about having to put extensions on your boards to accommodate big ones. How long are your otter boards to begin with? I’ve put up many hundreds of otter and have never had one too long for my otter boards.

Re: Tough otter [Re: claycreech] #8593651
04/03/26 11:55 PM
04/03/26 11:55 PM
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Oakland, MS
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Originally Posted by claycreech
I guess I’m weird, but I like putting up otter.
I scraped and dried 65 this winter, and one stood out as way worse than the rest. In fact that otter really made the skinning machine moan way more than most. Sure glad they aren’t all like that lol.
I see you all talking about having to put extensions on your boards to accommodate big ones. How long are your otter boards to begin with? I’ve put up many hundreds of otter and have never had one too long for my otter boards.


I'd rather put up 3 otter than 1 beaver.


Proud Leader of Moosetrot's Squad
Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593653
04/04/26 12:05 AM
04/04/26 12:05 AM
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Sumner, Mo.
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I can’t say that! Lol

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593654
04/04/26 12:07 AM
04/04/26 12:07 AM
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I enjoy the time spent on each critter. Otter just are a bit more work, and honestly I think they should be quite a bit more valuable for the trapper.

Re: Tough otter [Re: mad_mike] #8593660
04/04/26 12:19 AM
04/04/26 12:19 AM
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Sumner, Mo.
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
I enjoy the time spent on each critter. Otter just are a bit more work, and honestly I think they should be quite a bit more valuable for the trapper.


Agree.
I’m gonna average close to $70 this year by the time I move the skulls, glands, and peckers. Sure would like to see them at a Benjamin or more average. That’s been awhile ago lol.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593717
04/04/26 07:34 AM
04/04/26 07:34 AM
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lewis county,new york
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My shoulders and elbows are aching just thinking about it. Occasionally I’ll catch a real thin spring beaver, they’re tough. Nice job on that otter Walt.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593728
04/04/26 07:53 AM
04/04/26 07:53 AM
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Northern Maine
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Good job.Looks very nice.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593744
04/04/26 08:28 AM
04/04/26 08:28 AM
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WI
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WI
Them grissely old males can force the swear words out! And take twice as long

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593748
04/04/26 08:33 AM
04/04/26 08:33 AM
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Wisconsin
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I'm on my way to the DNR skinning party. I'll see if I can get some pics. I know there will be some otters to put up.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593814
04/04/26 10:39 AM
04/04/26 10:39 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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I know its not an option in the south but here I can frostscrape all my otters,there is no difference in effort between a fatty or a grisselback

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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593867
04/04/26 12:17 PM
04/04/26 12:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now back to O...
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There is an excellent tutorial in the Wilderness Archives called A Whole Otter Fun, by trapped4ever. To say he is an expert fur handler would be a gross understatement, and his otter put-up is flawless.
I, on the other hand, hate skinning and fleshing those things. I have trapped my share over the decades, but until they go north of $120.00, I limit myself to 1 per year, just to remind me how much I dis-like handling them.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8593871
04/04/26 12:21 PM
04/04/26 12:21 PM
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Just doing what I want now.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594522
04/05/26 11:30 AM
04/05/26 11:30 AM
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Idaho
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Idaho
Thanks for posting that AV, I'd forgotten all about that thread!

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594558
04/05/26 01:03 PM
04/05/26 01:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
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Oregon
I do a little knife work on the tail and the head and the rest with my trusty 2.5" pull type paint scraper.

These are some that I had to measure and show to a potential buyer. (He bought 'em).

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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594570
04/05/26 01:18 PM
04/05/26 01:18 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
BTW, the otter that Boco shows with a narrow tail would be worth about $20 less on our western sales where craft buyers for Indian regalia are the best buyers. They want a wide tail that takes up the whole board at the skirt.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594589
04/05/26 01:40 PM
04/05/26 01:40 PM
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I do my tails even wider than BP, but never pleated.

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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594592
04/05/26 01:45 PM
04/05/26 01:45 PM
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I do them like mud.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594597
04/05/26 01:52 PM
04/05/26 01:52 PM
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Oregon
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That first pic was the first year I sold to Dennis and my understanding of what he wants with otter pelts just in its infancy.

A later otter job:
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Last edited by beaverpeeler; 04/05/26 01:53 PM.

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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594620
04/05/26 02:52 PM
04/05/26 02:52 PM
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Sumner, Mo.
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How wide are those boards Beaverpeeler?

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594660
04/05/26 03:40 PM
04/05/26 03:40 PM
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Oregon
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7.5" (I know, the pics make it look like 6.5" lol)

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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594869
04/05/26 08:55 PM
04/05/26 08:55 PM
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Idaho
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Yep, Dennis hates pleated tails. I do mine wide like beaverpeelers second pic. Those narrow tails will cost you money out here. Never did understand the pleated tails unless peoples boards were too short to fit the tail on. Seen a batch of coons at the sail this year with pleated tails also.

Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594880
04/05/26 09:10 PM
04/05/26 09:10 PM
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Boco do you think frost scraping could be replicated using a chest type or walk in freezer? I’ve been scraping otters, and often wonder if there is an easier way then bending over a beam with my necker. It does the job and the end product is great, but always looking to be more efficient. Also interested in that paint scraper - beavpeeler.

Nice otter Walt, that set was productive

Re: Tough otter [Re: bearcat2] #8594900
04/05/26 10:08 PM
04/05/26 10:08 PM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Yep, Dennis hates pleated tails. I do mine wide like beaverpeelers second pic. Those narrow tails will cost you money out here. Never did understand the pleated tails unless peoples boards were too short to fit the tail on. Seen a batch of coons at the sail this year with pleated tails also.


The pleated tail craze was supposed to push more fur up into the window. Was always a poor idea in my opinion.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: JoMiBru] #8594902
04/05/26 10:11 PM
04/05/26 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMiBru
Boco do you think frost scraping could be replicated using a chest type or walk in freezer? I’ve been scraping otters, and often wonder if there is an easier way then bending over a beam with my necker. It does the job and the end product is great, but always looking to be more efficient. Also interested in that paint scraper - beavpeeler.

Nice otter Walt, that set was productive


Some day I'll take pics and do a tutorial. Not sure what I do is any better than anybody else's; but it suits me. I don't own a two handled fleshing knife.


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8594906
04/05/26 10:30 PM
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Back in the day the otter were shipped in watermelon crates which were 40x44" long tails had to be folded inside creating problems for inspections.....time consuming and breakage damage possible and bulky
Some of the shipping crates now are 40x56" so folding/ pleating not needed

Re: Tough otter [Re: beaverpeeler] #8595060
04/06/26 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I do a little knife work on the tail and the head and the rest with my trusty 2.5" pull type paint scraper.

These are some that I had to measure and show to a potential buyer. (He bought 'em).

[Linked Image]
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BP, what's your thoughts on fleshing otters while wet?

I've always been skeptical that it helps with singe, and I think an otter that's boarded when the guard hair is still damp looks terrible when it comes off the board. Curious on how you and mud do it?


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Re: Tough otter [Re: Muskratwalt] #8595111
04/06/26 10:51 AM
04/06/26 10:51 AM
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Oregon
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I don't pay much attention to it. I whip the pelt several times to get water out before fleshing and will often hang a pelt overnight in a cool dry area before boarding the next day. I rarely am working with bone dry pelts though, and they may be slightly damp when boarded. Fur always looks great in the window and tail.

Speaking of windows, my buyer is not a fan so these days I'm leaving little to no window. He is cutting 1.5" strips from the pelt and the longer the strip them more it is worth. Therefore no windows makes him more $$$ from the pelt.


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