YOu guys mentioned military going to 6.5 creedmore. Not what I been hearing. Everything I see is the 6.8.. But google lies....


The 6.8x51mm cartridge (designated .277 SIG Fury in the civilian market) is the new standard ammunition adopted by the U.S. Army for the Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) program to replace the 5.56mm NATO. It is designed to offer significantly higher velocity, energy, and armor-piercing capabilities to combat modern, advanced

YOu guys mentioned military going to 6.5 creedmore. Not what I been hearing. Everything I see is the 6.8.. But google lies....


The 6.8x51mm cartridge (designated .277 SIG Fury in the civilian market) is the new standard ammunition adopted by the U.S. Army for the Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) program to replace the 5.56mm NATO. It is designed to offer significantly higher velocity, energy, and armor-piercing capabilities to combat modern, advanced

A decent round but I like my 6.8 Western much better.

Don't understand why the military insists on trying to reinvent the wheel, 5.56 not good enough?, plug in a 243 or 260, runs through 308 magazines, and semi rifles, just change out the barrels of the zillion rifles you already got.
and what happened to the 6.5 grendle? All more potent than the 223, still with low recoil...

Something something " but ma 6.5 swede" something something "paper punching" something something " but .260 rem" something something man bun .... Same thing as the 6.5 swede but it sucks , even though the 6.5 swede doesn't suck .

Seriously though the marketing hype is the big reason people hate it. Similar to what happened back in the day when .270 win came out and O' Connor wouldn't shut up about it . Elmer Keith even said it was a decent coyote round at best ....or something like that. But he's the same guy wanting something to be able to shoot elks wherever and drop them . There was a guy in Africa too I think who hated it and it was because he shot a warthog in the butt and it don't kill it .

I really dont get the folks who will get all hot and bothered about 6.5 swede or .260 rem say 6.5 creed is the exact same thing....then go on a rant for 20min about how much it sucks....like ....if it's the exact same thing then wouldn't that mean the ones you like suck ????

There also a issue with a lot of FUDD knowledge. I've been in the gun shop with people cussing 6.5 creed and when you ask them way they will tell you stuff like

" It's going so fast the bullets bouncing down the barrel and it deforms the bullet so when it hits the deer it just explode"

" That's round is so deadly you can hit them about anywhere and those new bullets will drop them on the spot !"
Or one of my favorites
"It was a round. Designed to wound ! So you get better meat "

And since it came out the mouth of a old grumpy guy no one questions it and yeah .

Most of the wounding deals I've seen when you actually get down to it is some jack wagon who didn't practice who just shot in the big middle , and those same people usually have a history of doing the same with other calibers . reason most of them like something like a 7mm mag . I'm not joking when I say these are the same type who I'll come to my lil range to sight in and throw a fit when you tell them ,no being able to shoot a shot gun pattern group @100yd isn't good enough just because there all on the piece of copy paper

That or grabbing something that the snipers or whatever use and think there a sniper . ... There gonna do it regardless, if it's not a 6.5 it'll be a .308, if not .308 will be 7mm08 or something...

There's also something to be said , apparently about some of the bullets they load in factory ammo just not being the best for that caliber. Was listening to a guy who big into ballistic talka bout how a lot of the bullets that where great in .30cals just don't work as well in 6.5's. but that's a whole deep rabbit hole .

Everyone I know who really likes them grew up shooting game with smaller calibers , 25-06, 22-250 ,.22mag .243 so they don't have any issues with the creed because....well they know where to actually shoot past behind the shoulder or something . Was able to talk to a swede on time about the whole moose and 6.5 swede thing and he point blank said he feels a lot of it is just the difference in shot placement since a lot of European do high shoulder shots instead of heart and lung...

Idk though I like mine would take it over .308 any day

I shoot pigs not moose or whatever though so idk just some observations

PF id be curious as to your load in 260 that has less drop and drift than a 300 WM. I dont see that as possible unless your comparing a high bc bullet in a 260 to a low bc bullet in the 300. A 300 can push as high or higher bc bullets faster than a 260 unless your just running the 260 at some very high pressure.