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Re: Iran shot down US jet [Re: IN cooner] #8594518
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Gad they're safe. Hollywood is salivating....


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Re: Iran shot down US jet [Re: IN cooner] #8594933
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We should leak false information that our jets are shot down in specific locations and then exterminate the Islamists that show up hunting for our men. It's alright to bait them in and no limit.

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I don’t/wouldn’t believe anything coming out of either side,,,

When was the last time we were spoon fed accurate information?

And I wouldn’t expect anything less,,,,

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"After an F-15E Strike Eagle was shot down deep inside Iran, the United States launched a massive combat search-and-rescue operation that successfully recovered both airmen—but only after losing HC-130J rescue aircraft, helicopters, drones and an A-10 in what may be the costliest CSAR mission in modern history."

"By the end of the mission, the United States had lost an F-15E Strike Eagle, at least two HC-130J Combat King II rescue aircraft, an MH-6 Little Bird helicopter (possibly two), one A-10 Thunderbolt II and possibly multiple MQ-9 Reaper drones, while two HH-60 rescue helicopters were damaged and several other aircraft reportedly declared emergencies."



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Re: Iran shot down US jet [Re: Dirt] #8595039
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Originally Posted by Dirt


"After an F-15E Strike Eagle was shot down deep inside Iran, the United States launched a massive combat search-and-rescue operation that successfully recovered both airmen—but only after losing HC-130J rescue aircraft, helicopters, drones and an A-10 in what may be the costliest CSAR mission in modern history."

"By the end of the mission, the United States had lost an F-15E Strike Eagle, at least two HC-130J Combat King II rescue aircraft, an MH-6 Little Bird helicopter (possibly two), one A-10 Thunderbolt II and possibly multiple MQ-9 Reaper drones, while two HH-60 rescue helicopters were damaged and several other aircraft reportedly declared emergencies."



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And our Soldiers deserve nothing less. Knowing your country has your back and will come get you out and not say no to costly has to be a great feeling and add confidence.

Now time for the tds crowd to turn this to a but that wouldn't happen if Trump didnt want the bad press. Maybe correct maybe not. I dont care I care our airmen got recovered alive. Out of all the crap the government wast money on spending on backing and rescuing our troops is something im 100% behind.

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Last week there was reports coming out of plans to fly SF in,,,

Build runway,,,,, extract uranium,,, land transports,,,fly it out

Which would be incredibly stupid to release that kind of info,,,,if true??

This past weekend generals are being fired,, as pics of burnt out remains of transports and heli’s on a “abandoned” strip come out,,,

Flying transports in and rolling little birds out,, for the mountain rescue makes zero sense

Sorry, I’m not buying it,,,

They have special long range heli’s that can aerial refuel,,, designed for this exact rescue purposes

And I’m NOT in anyway knocking the military,,they are absolutely the best in the world

It would be very disappointing if they were actually that transparent

Let’s hope they aren’t,,, and I highly doubt they are

My guess is,,,,,,,

Something didn’t go according to the plan

Maybe someday we’ll find out,,,maybe not




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Re: Iran shot down US jet [Re: spjones] #8595168
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Originally Posted by spjones

Flying transports in and rolling little birds out,, for the mountain rescue makes zero sense

Sorry, I’m not buying it,,,

They have special long range heli’s that can aerial refuel,,, designed for this exact rescue purposes


Something didn’t go according to the plan







Seems to make complete sense to me given the distances involved, the general elevation of the terrain, the tight spaces for maneuvering in those mountains, the heat during the day in that area, and the performance limitations of the various aircraft available.

I do agree that something didn't go according to plan. That being the nose gear of the C-130's getting stuck in soft ground.
I would also assume that the plan was to abandon the two AH/MH6 at the site regardless ... due to time constraints on the back end of the mission.


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Aren’t you a pilot?

in higher elevations/thinner air, larger helicopters with larger rotor surface areas greatly outperform smaller machines in maneuverable and lift

Just watched the presser


Still not buying it

There’s no doubt a incredible military operation took place,,,

I just don’t believe the whole story

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I read that the location this pilot went down was the same location that they are storing the 1000 lbs of uranium. Not sure if that is true, and if so, it was just a coincidence or something else going on.

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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by spjones

Flying transports in and rolling little birds out,, for the mountain rescue makes zero sense

Sorry, I’m not buying it,,,

They have special long range heli’s that can aerial refuel,,, designed for this exact rescue purposes


Something didn’t go according to the plan







Seems to make complete sense to me given the distances involved, the general elevation of the terrain, the tight spaces for maneuvering in those mountains, the heat during the day in that area, and the performance limitations of the various aircraft available.

I do agree that something didn't go according to plan. That being the nose gear of the C-130's getting stuck in soft ground.
I would also assume that the plan was to abandon the two AH/MH6 at the site regardless ... due to time constraints on the back end of the mission.


Agreed


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Originally Posted by spjones
Aren’t you a pilot?

in higher elevations/thinner air, larger helicopters with larger rotor surface areas greatly outperform smaller machines in maneuverable and lift

Just watched the presser


Still not buying it

There’s no doubt a incredible military operation took place,,,

I just don’t believe the whole story






Yeah i am familiar with density altitude that's why i made reference to the elevations where the mission took place.

The ah6 and mh6 climb about 25 % faster than the UH60 variants and are far more nimble. They weigh about one seventh what the uh 60 weighs and can operate at greater altitudes than the UH60. The rotor disk of the UH 60 is double the diameter of the disk on the AH/MH6. 27 feet compared to almost 54 feet.
Much easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

So different roles for different aircraft..

I was simply wondering why you would think they wouldn't transport the ah6 in to use onsite.


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