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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
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Yesterday at 07:17 PM
Yesterday at 07:17 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Seldom
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Midland, MI.
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I usually do not participate in these kinds of discussions but one question, are you and your coworkers hourly or salary? Hourly I was a union pipewelder/fabricator for 1/2 my career with DOW and I worked with a lot of men who hated their trades jobs BUT never took “extra” time off BECAUSE they and their families needed the paycheck!!! Most refused to even take sick(I was one) leave because you got no $$ or 2 weeks and then only 1/2 pay as long as you were off work sick! Pretty simple principle, need $$, work to earn $$! You tell me what the problem is because from my advantage point it would look like these employees are way overpaid AND don’t need the $$!!! If you are earning enough $$ to get by, sort of like being educated beyond your intelligence, where's the incentive to work to earn more?? The shallowness of these people's lives and gross lack of critical thinking is really a serious problem for society and future generations IMHO!
Last edited by Seldom; Yesterday at 07:19 PM.
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598346
Yesterday at 07:17 PM
Yesterday at 07:17 PM
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Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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If two weeks notice is given, my employer can’t deny a request. 2 weeks is enough time to properly schedule and bring in extra staff from somewhere else if req. The first 6 months is probation with zero holidays, after that they start accruing holidays. After almost 25 years I’m entitled to 30 vac days and I can fill my OT bank up to 120hours. A lot of my unused holidays go into my retirement bank which maxes out at 150 days to be paid out lump or keep you on the pay roll longer while you’ve retired. Unions suck eh?…….lol I never had this while hog farming or drywalling. You work when there’s work. People complain and whine about my wage and benefits. I tell them to apply for the trade. Then they shut up…….lol. It’s good money, but it certainly isn’t free.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598347
Yesterday at 07:20 PM
Yesterday at 07:20 PM
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Joined: Dec 2019
Iowa
CTRAPS
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Iowa
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I tried not to worry about what other employees were doing in my department as long as what they did was within the company guidelines or policies.
I understand your frustration, Ashley, but in the grand scheme of things, we all have choices to make. You chose to be dependable, show up to work, and be a good employee; the others…not so much.
Life Member: ITA, IBA, MTA & NRA. Member of SA, FTA & NTA
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598350
Yesterday at 07:22 PM
Yesterday at 07:22 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior
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Georgia
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Are these paid time off or off without pay? Without pay. We are a fairly new practice. We just now got five paid holidays a year. And I think a few paid sick days New practice. Most new businesses go in without a solid set of rules, aka employee handbook, seems like they have to learn the hard way.
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
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Yesterday at 07:32 PM
Yesterday at 07:32 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Central Oregon
AntiGov
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Central Oregon
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Coddled Poor work ethic No loyalty
Seems to be the norm with many these days
Oh , and they all want top pay ......not starting pay
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598361
Yesterday at 07:45 PM
Yesterday at 07:45 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Montana
beartooth trapr
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Montana
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I work a super 7 schedule and get 7 days off in a row. Get 200 hours vacation and 6 sick day's. Have the 30 day's in January to schedule all or part of my vacation, and it's seniority based. I do all mine than because I'm #2 on seniority list. And you get one first choice.
Also have to give a week's notice before vacation request can be looked at.
Let me sugar coat this
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: AntiGov]
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Yesterday at 07:52 PM
Yesterday at 07:52 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
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Very SE Nebraska
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Coddled Poor work ethic No loyalty
Seems to be the norm with many these days
Oh , and they all want top pay ......not starting pay Hence the $10 Extra Value Meal at McDonalds....
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
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Yesterday at 08:08 PM
Yesterday at 08:08 PM
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Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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Seems my co workers are constantly requesting time off and it’s ALWAYS approved. To the point we are short handed several days a week . One employee has already taken off five days this month; a concert and then a wedding, and JUST put in for two weeks off in August. She is kind of a new hire, not even been with us a year. I like to save my time off for hunting and trapping season and I try not to take advantage as it has never been established how much time we are allotted.
What is your work policy? Just curious.
I don’t know how a business can be run this way. It works because other employees will work harder to fill the void. That may, or not end up making too much work for the other employees. If it's too much, you should come together and speak to management. Keith
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598386
Yesterday at 08:18 PM
Yesterday at 08:18 PM
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MI
trappingthomas
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MI
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Seems my co workers are constantly requesting time off and it’s ALWAYS approved. To the point we are short handed several days a week . One employee has already taken off five days this month; a concert and then a wedding, and JUST put in for two weeks off in August. She is kind of a new hire, not even been with us a year. I like to save my time off for hunting and trapping season and I try not to take advantage as it has never been established how much time we are allotted.
What is your work policy? Just curious.
I don’t know how a business can be run this way. No long term business can run that way. Period!
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
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Yesterday at 08:23 PM
Yesterday at 08:23 PM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Jackson Co, KS
NEYotetrapper
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Jackson Co, KS
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What OhioBoy asked. In addition I believe employers today are forced to be more “flexible” in dealings with employees as replacements can be difficult to find. Employees market! Well then I have no choice but to take advantage too. It’s not in my nature but it is doing me no good to have a work ethic like I do. Nobody cares apparently Having a work ethic puts you in a minority group........ maybe you would qualify for government assistance for those days you do take off?! LOL I always love it when those people whose work ethic sucks tell me I work too hard, what they are actually saying is stop making me look bad.
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8598403
Yesterday at 08:47 PM
Yesterday at 08:47 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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Green County Wisconsin
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we have a calendar there are 3 of use who do what I do or close enough to it no 2 of us can take off at the same time.
I have Wednesday off to hit the Dentist and eye doc and my co-worker asked if I would be back home by 4 because he needs to take his mom to an appointment at 4. I plan to be can't imagine why the eye doc would need me for 3 hours.
so in the event something bad happens I get the call starting at 4 if our 3rd co-worker is already on something
yall need PTO buddies , someone who performs the same job and you agree to not take off the same days intentionally. If the entire office gets sick it happens.
every day should be scheduled at least a week in advance if it isn't an illness.
I guess maybe the issue is it isn't paid time off
we have very specific allotments when I started it was 2 weeks vacation , 1 week sick , 40 hours personal max use of 4 hours at time they now have done away with personal time , I was never able to use it much any way , personal cancels overtime so I would just lose overtime and not use any personal.
they changed it to 3 weeks vacation now and 1 week sick I used some sick last year but I had been sitting at the max of 520 hours for a decade. I had 5 weeks vacation earned but with that personal time changed now it is 6 weeks and I can carry 2 year to year. so I could take 8 weeks vacation in a Jan 1 to Dec 31 year. at some point.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Question about time off
[Re: GUNNLEG]
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Yesterday at 09:01 PM
Yesterday at 09:01 PM
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Joined: Jan 2023
Pennsylvania
elsmasho82
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Pennsylvania
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My suggestion would be to speak to the owner / office manager and bring up your concerns. If they’re not paid time off hours, not sure that you have much of a say unless they can plainly see that folks taking off are putting too much of a burden on those working. I guess they could make the same complaint when you take off during trapping season though??
I’ve always earned accrued paid time off. Up to 6 weeks a year now, which is a blessing. Time is requested based on seniority, with a limit to how many folks can be off at the same time.
Wishing you luck! Last year I took off a total of four days for trapping. Just to try and trap hard. If someone there has the nerve to question me imma say bring it on!!
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