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Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: white17] #8603128
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Originally Posted by white17
When my daughter was a senior in college there was a mandatory graduation requirement that a student had to volunteer at some entity in the Fairbanks area.

I was more than a little 'huffy' about it.
Mandatory volunteerism seemed like more than just an oxymoron to me.

There are several things that should be taught that aren't.

We get that at work a lot when people have to help out other areas. Its called voluntold. Lol

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: uplandpointer] #8603143
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I was speaking with a National Transportation Board member years ago. In his opinion, every training program that lowered the driving age, or increased the number of young drivers (such as Drivers Ed), was detrimental to public safety

Data at that time showed that the age of a driver involved in an accident was the single greatest factor, whether they took Drivers Ed or not. Postponing the age of beginning drivers would save more lives than drivers education.

Not sure I completely agree.

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: uplandpointer] #8603149
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In the not to distant future ,,, humans driving will be a thing of the past

A human behind the wheel will considered too dangerous

To high of an insurance risk




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Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: K9BeavCoon] #8603156
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Originally Posted by K9BeavCoon


The educators in my family have came to the same conclusion. It’s a shame. The education system is broken. e


I disagree that the system is broken; I see it as society is broken. Teachers are like the innocent bystander in the gas station that gets robbed. Armed robber comes in and holds up the clerk and shoots, the bystander is shot for just being there. The Republican and Democrat "Karens" of this country are so pitted against each other, that the ones trying to do the right thing are having their hands tied behind their back. If the extremists could just take their head out of their rear ends for a moment and work together to accomplish what's best for ALL. The movement around here has been to vote in these wacked out freak extreme so-called republicans onto the school boards. I've been Republican all my life and they are a true embarrassment. Unbelievable the misinformation they spread and the blatant lies they get away with to further their agendas. They are forcing tunnel vision education on our kids and scrapping top tier methods.


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Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: uplandpointer] #8603157
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That’s why charter schools are now greatly outperforming public schools

If I had a child about to enter the system,,,,

It would be a charter school or home school

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: Randy Wieland] #8603158
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
Originally Posted by K9BeavCoon


The educators in my family have came to the same conclusion. It’s a shame. The education system is broken. e


I disagree that the system is broken; I see it as society is broken. Teachers are like the innocent bystander in the gas station that gets robbed. Armed robber comes in and holds up the clerk and shoots, the bystander is shot for just being there. The Republican and Democrat "Karens" of this country are so pitted against each other, that the ones trying to do the right thing are having their hands tied behind their back. If the extremists could just take their head out of their rear ends for a moment and work together to accomplish what's best for ALL. The movement around here has been to vote in these wacked out freak extreme so-called republicans onto the school boards. I've been Republican all my life and they are a true embarrassment. Unbelievable the misinformation they spread and the blatant lies they get away with to further their agendas. They are forcing tunnel vision education on our kids and scrapping top tier methods.

Democrats are in charge of most school boards so I don't get your statement?

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: trapdog1] #8603170
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
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There's only so much time in a day. What classes should be cut for drivers education?

They used to teach drivers Ed. in school. It was an elective, but I remember everyone signing up for it as soon as they got their driving permit. I don't know when that stopped.

As far as I know, all the schools out west still do, didn't know they had stopped doing so back east.

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: Randy Wieland] #8603176
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
Originally Posted by K9BeavCoon


The educators in my family have came to the same conclusion. It’s a shame. The education system is broken. e


I disagree that the system is broken; I see it as society is broken. Teachers are like the innocent bystander in the gas station that gets robbed. Armed robber comes in and holds up the clerk and shoots, the bystander is shot for just being there. The Republican and Democrat "Karens" of this country are so pitted against each other, that the ones trying to do the right thing are having their hands tied behind their back. If the extremists could just take their head out of their rear ends for a moment and work together to accomplish what's best for ALL. The movement around here has been to vote in these wacked out freak extreme so-called republicans onto the school boards. I've been Republican all my life and they are a true embarrassment. Unbelievable the misinformation they spread and the blatant lies they get away with to further their agendas. They are forcing tunnel vision education on our kids and scrapping top tier methods.


You’re correct. The crazy pendulum swings both ways. Each side thinks it is only the other side but that’s laughable.

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: Randy Wieland] #8603181
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
Originally Posted by K9BeavCoon


The educators in my family have came to the same conclusion. It’s a shame. The education system is broken. e


I disagree that the system is broken; I see it as society is broken. Teachers are like the innocent bystander in the gas station that gets robbed. Armed robber comes in and holds up the clerk and shoots, the bystander is shot for just being there. The Republican and Democrat "Karens" of this country are so pitted against each other, that the ones trying to do the right thing are having their hands tied behind their back. If the extremists could just take their head out of their rear ends for a moment and work together to accomplish what's best for ALL. The movement around here has been to vote in these wacked out freak extreme so-called republicans onto the school boards. I've been Republican all my life and they are a true embarrassment. Unbelievable the misinformation they spread and the blatant lies they get away with to further their agendas. They are forcing tunnel vision education on our kids and scrapping top tier methods.

Well said.

Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: Randy Wieland] #8603183
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
Originally Posted by K9BeavCoon


The educators in my family have came to the same conclusion. It’s a shame. The education system is broken. e


I disagree that the system is broken; I see it as society is broken. Teachers are like the innocent bystander in the gas station that gets robbed. Armed robber comes in and holds up the clerk and shoots, the bystander is shot for just being there. The Republican and Democrat "Karens" of this country are so pitted against each other, that the ones trying to do the right thing are having their hands tied behind their back. If the extremists could just take their head out of their rear ends for a moment and work together to accomplish what's best for ALL. The movement around here has been to vote in these wacked out freak extreme so-called republicans onto the school boards. I've been Republican all my life and they are a true embarrassment. Unbelievable the misinformation they spread and the blatant lies they get away with to further their agendas. They are forcing tunnel vision education on our kids and scrapping top tier methods.


School boards have been firmly controlled by Democrats for decades and they have failed miserably at running the nation's schools. When conservative parents finally got fed up enough about it to do something, it doesn't really surprise me that they chose extreme right individuals to replace them with. I think what really woke a lot of parents up was the push to embrace transgender and LGBTQ idealogies in schools. The school boards had became extreme left, and I think people felt the extreme right was needed to reset things.

I know that there are just as many on the far right as on the far left that spread misinformation and find that unfortunate. I call it out when I see it and often get labeled as anti-Trump or even liberal for doing so, although that is far from true.

I would be curious to know what you feel are the "top-tier methods" conservative board members are scrapping, though.


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Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: uplandpointer] #8603223
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I would be curious to know what you feel are the "top-tier methods" conservative board members are scrapping, though

For specific names of programs, I would need to ask my wife or daughters. My oldest daughter was the most extensively involved a number of years in evaluating and getting trained on various curriculums and teaching methods. Implemented I think for three years and she was seeing huge improvements (elementary level). Her district was taken over by an extreme group of conservatives with no teaching experience. Board is directing them to revert to old curriculums and whacking head count, classes, and various programs. for the nearly 30 years I've been in Watertown area, I have been impressed the level of education. One of the few districts that produce well above average - high level of students go on to college or trades. Extremely high level of AG, Biology, Engineering, and music students. Now we have a board that knows more about educating kids than all the staff combined (Hhahahahahaha).


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Re: Mandatory School subjects [Re: uplandpointer] #8603245
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We had to take shop and home ec. when in 8th grade, home ec included how to balance a checkbook as well as cook . Basic life skills one needs. Civics in High School need to now how we are suppossed to work as a country. Those basic life skills really need to be taught to these kids so we ended up doing a lot of that with our own, just teach them at home too . We did the school thing more for the social as anything. The wife had them reading and all that before kindergarden Had to correct more than a couple "facts" or ommissions over the years from schooling

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