Dogless or dog
#8602407
04/23/26 11:20 AM
04/23/26 11:20 AM
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Joined: Dec 2017
Up a creek MT
jnsff69
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OP
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Joined: Dec 2017
Up a creek MT
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What's yur opinion for advantages and disadvantages. Likes & dislikes. Reasons for one or the other (excluding already have, no reason to switch)
Ya can't miss fur if yur traps are out somewhere. Or so I've been told.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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04/23/26 12:00 PM
04/23/26 12:00 PM
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Joined: Aug 2011
Craigmont, Idaho
marty weatherup
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Craigmont, Idaho
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I spent the majority of my trapping life with dogged traps but in recent years of using dogless traps I can see myself moving more that way as I need more traps or need to replace traps. Until the advent of the heavier dogs like you see on MB 550s or the Duke 650s, we stiffened our dogs with a backer piece. And only having an arc welder back then, I blew through a few dogs before I figured out how many amps were just right. With a mig it’s far easier. It’s still one of those tedious jobs I dislike.
I’ve modified several #3 DLS with dogless pans and really like how they come out. I end up with an adjustable tension pan that sits flat and level with or slightly below the jaws.
As to advantages one over the other I can’t really say other than the dogless traps have one less part for the coyotes to bend, spindle or mutilate. But I’ve caught some big piles of coyotes on dogged traps and just dealt with the occasional bent dog. How’s that for an ambiguous answer.
Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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04/23/26 06:43 PM
04/23/26 06:43 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Bridger dogless design.
No negatives.
Adjustable nut/bolt design dogless pan.
Trap beds easily and stable...better than any trap I've used and I've used many brands and sizes.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
#8602556
04/23/26 07:47 PM
04/23/26 07:47 PM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
Teacher
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Rochester, MN
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I’ve used the Montana #3 dbl coils and love they are dogless. In either offset or tight jawed, they were awesome. Arthritis is keeping me away from foot traps or I’d still be using them.
Never too old to learn
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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04/24/26 01:23 AM
04/24/26 01:23 AM
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Joined: Feb 2024
Montana
Willoughby
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Montana
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dogless -ease of setting, less dead spot, less maintenance- just more advance trigger IMHO
if your lucky enough to live in the BIG woods your lucky enough
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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04/24/26 03:09 PM
04/24/26 03:09 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
bearcat2
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Idaho
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I had always used dog on traps, and didn't think I would like dogless... until I tried them. I far prefer dogless now. Coyotes may bend up a dog, wolves will bend any dog made, not every one will bend the dog, but I would say 80+% of the time when you catch a wolf in a dog on trap, you will be straightening the dog in order to reset. Never had a problem with dogless traps needing straightened, regardless of catch. Less moving parts, which means less things to hold on to when setting. I've got plenty of glove fingertips between the dog and pan over the years, can't recall ever having that issue with a dogless trap, because my fingers aren't near there. I like my pans lower, so all my dogless traps latch on a tab on the inside of the jaw, rather than on the top of the jaw.
On the plus side for dog on traps, any idiot can make a dog that will work out of scraps laying around with simple hand tools, it takes a little more finese to make a dogless pan that will work, set properly and level. But it can be done, and is much less likely to be necessary in the first place.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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Yesterday at 01:00 PM
Yesterday at 01:00 PM
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Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now back to O...
alaska viking
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Dogless is much easier and safer to set, especially the big traps, (think KORO #9), and even the TS-85. No fumbling with the dog. Just lift the pan. And all the advantages listed above. Now if there was a way to night-latch a dogless....
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Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: scheide]
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Yesterday at 06:51 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior
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Georgia
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The Wolf Creek dogless traps are a copy of the old dogless montgomeries. With Northwoods levers, the one flaw of the monties was the low levers. Northwood levers are better.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: alaska viking]
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Yesterday at 10:44 PM
Yesterday at 10:44 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Dogless is much easier and safer to set, especially the big traps, (think KORO #9), and even the TS-85. No fumbling with the dog. Just lift the pan. And all the advantages listed above. Now if there was a way to night-latch a dogless.... There is. Just look at a Bridger dogless pan. Factory night-latched. Not sure about night-latching those sloppy Montgomery and Wolf Creeks ya'll love.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: alaska viking]
#8603413
Yesterday at 10:51 PM
Yesterday at 10:51 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
bearcat2
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Idaho
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Dogless is much easier and safer to set, especially the big traps, (think KORO #9), and even the TS-85. No fumbling with the dog. Just lift the pan. And all the advantages listed above. Now if there was a way to night-latch a dogless.... The ones I am making are nightlatched. The nightlatch is on the tab the pan latches to.
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: jnsff69]
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4 hours ago
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Joined: Aug 2015
NE NE
Wife
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NE NE
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Yes, I forgot to emphasize the spring levers are replaced with Bridger ones on my modded old Mont. SJ #2's so thanks to Warrior for bringing that up. The pivot (attached) point of the pan to the cross member is (proving the Archimedes lifting principal) a little better trigger design for me. The fulcrum point farther away (outside the jaw) makes the entire pan to be used as the lift lever, both easier and requiring a shorter distance to release the pan at the dogless contact point. The physics are better for me with the older design than the newer ones but.......... probably splitting hairs when not needed as "its not rocket science"! PLus once again, I like the reduced weight when hauling, setting and moving lots of sets. The 550's are still hard to beat in farm country but the #2's equal them for me here. My experience. ................................the (lazy) mike
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Re: Dogless or dog
[Re: Willoughby]
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1 hour ago
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Joined: Feb 2026
SE Ohio
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SE Ohio
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dogless -ease of setting, less dead spot, less maintenance- just more advance trigger IMHO
Completely agree
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