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Basically a gang of Somalis got a ride to and invaded a school they didn't go to, armed with a gun, to go after white and black American and Mexican students. They intended to film it and put it on the internet. Apparently as many as 40 Somalis, of various ages, had been going after around 5 American teenagers and a Mexican, for two years.
The original confrontation, two years earlier, started when the Somalis tried to rob the white and black American kids Halloween candy and the Americans fought back.
Westerville is a fairy affluent Columbus, Ohio neighborhood. They had another kid with a gun in the school.last week.
Keith
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: KeithC]
#8603380 04/25/2610:12 PM04/25/2610:12 PM
There's crazier videos than that, but they have foul language. Heather, in that video, is almost beyond speaking. Hopefully someone can save her, but there's a good chance she's dead or soon to be.
I had two friends who were alcoholics, being around them temporarily killed any desire to drink at all in me. I think making kids see late stage alcoholics and drug addicts would prevent a lot of substance abuse issues.
Seeing someone's skin and eyes turn yellow, with broken veins in the eyes, seeing them pee and crap themselves, seeing them fall into or off of things and smelling that terrible smell as their kidneys and liver dies makes anyone who doesn't have themselves not want to drink.
Keith
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: KeithC]
#8603407 04/25/2610:46 PM04/25/2610:46 PM
There's crazier videos than that, but they have foul language. Heather, in that video, is almost beyond speaking. Hopefully someone can save her, but there's a good chance she's dead or soon to be.
I had two friends who were alcoholics, being around them temporarily killed any desire to drink at all in me. I think making kids see late stage alcoholics and drug addicts would prevent a lot of substance abuse issues.
Seeing someone's skin and eyes turn yellow, with broken veins in the eyes, seeing them pee and crap themselves, seeing them fall into or off of things and smelling that terrible smell as their kidneys and liver dies makes anyone who doesn't have themselves not want to drink.
Keith
But dude, it's not about common sense. It's about FREEDOM man!!!
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: KeithC]
#8603412 04/25/2610:50 PM04/25/2610:50 PM
Watching the police dealing with the Karens on undercover, would make even some of the lightly looney liberals more sympathetic to them.
Most of the many people I arrested were for their bad attitudes in the end. I and my guards and police officers were a lot less tolerant than the cops in those videos. Letting people work themselves into a frenzy in public is dangerous and in my opinion, needs stopped before it escalates much.
Keith
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: bowhunter27295]
#8603414 04/25/2610:52 PM04/25/2610:52 PM
There's crazier videos than that, but they have foul language. Heather, in that video, is almost beyond speaking. Hopefully someone can save her, but there's a good chance she's dead or soon to be.
I had two friends who were alcoholics, being around them temporarily killed any desire to drink at all in me. I think making kids see late stage alcoholics and drug addicts would prevent a lot of substance abuse issues.
Seeing someone's skin and eyes turn yellow, with broken veins in the eyes, seeing them pee and crap themselves, seeing them fall into or off of things and smelling that terrible smell as their kidneys and liver dies makes anyone who doesn't have themselves not want to drink.
Keith
But dude, it's not about common sense. It's about FREEDOM man!!!
I believe in scared straight. If seeing how drugs can do that to you doesn't make someone wary, they can't be saved.
Keith
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: KeithC]
#8603425 04/25/2611:21 PM04/25/2611:21 PM
Leroy and Rick would drink any alcohol present, until it was gone or they totally passed out. It took a lot for them to pass out.
I met Leroy at a swap meet selling pigeons. We hunted, trapped and fished together. We also caught turtles, lizards and snakes to sell. We also mushroom hunted a lot and ran beagles together. When I met him, he had already lost his drivers license for life. He left a bar in someone else's car he thought was his, hit 168 parked cars on his way home, drove through his garage door, left the door into his house open and fell asleep with his upper body on his couch and lower body on the floor, which is how the police found him.
Leroy would stay sober for 6 to 8 months and then inevitably start drinking again. When he got bad, sometimes I would tell him I was picking him up to take him fishing and then meet his mom.at the hospital to have him committed. They would keep strapped to the bed for about a week. He would hallucinate he was catching snakes or trapping.
Leroy was very smart and very knowledgeable. He was a miserable drunk, who would lament how he ruined his life. He died in his fifties from cancer from poisoning his body.
I met Rick at Quality Farm and Fleet, when he heard me talking about pigeons. He taught me how to trap huge numbers of feral pigeons, which he would buy from me. He was one of the best dog trainers in the world. He frequently won the Nationals in Springer Spaniels. Russo and Colby were two dogs of many dogs he won with, but I can't remember which became the National Champion. He had as many as 27 dogs on hand that he trained and trialed for their owners. He was an avid hunter for birds and big game. He also died from cancer from poisoning his body with alcohol.
They were terrible when drinking and great when they were sober. Both were sad drunks. Both could of done much more with their lives and regretted it.
I miss them both.
Keith
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[Re: KeithC]
#8603434 04/25/2611:43 PM04/25/2611:43 PM
I grew up by a redneck bar, seen my oldest sister in law loose her liver at 38 and die from drinking. Her husband, my oldest brother, died at 45 from drugging. The best hunter and fisher I've ever known, bar none. By the time he was 30, it was rare he'd go hunting or fishing, but when he did, he'd put everyone else to shame. When he got saved at 42, he got three years more of hunting and fishing in before his heart failed him from all the overdoses from the years before he quit.
Psalm 34:6
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
[Re: KeithC]
#8603435 04/25/2611:46 PM04/25/2611:46 PM
… how do you know he hit exactly 168 cars on the way home
… sounds rough though
He and his mom both told me he did. He got divorced after the accident and lived with his mom until he died. His mom, him and his two sisters, who would visit frequently, would fight like proverbial cats and dogs when Leroy would drink. His mom was a great cook and liked me because she thought I was good influence on Leroy.
You would of liked him, except when he was near passing out. He was a good fisheman, hunter and trapper and super funny.
He had a huge gun collection, within the top two biggest I've ever seen. His whole bedroom and another room were almost entirely full of guns. He had so many, he had to move them out of the way to access stuff sometimes.
The other similar sized gun collection belonged to my friend Ralph. I met them together at the Swap. They were best friends. Ralph never drank a drop. Ralph was a Korean War Veteran. The Korean War Veteran's Memorial at the Airforce Museum was designed by Ralph and the statue looks dead on like what pictures of Ralph looked like in pictures of him from the war he showed me. Ralph was an angry old man, who would fight someone in a second. He got mad at himself once and knocked himself out.
His mom shot his uncle and probably killed his dad during the end of the Great Depression. At 7 years old Ralph was the "stickman" in a gang of kid that would rob passed out drunks sleeping under wagons. Ralph's job was to club the drunks unconscious if the drunks woke up when they were being robbed.
At age 83,_Ralph beat through 24" of limestone with a spud bar and built an around 200' long, 8' high cinder block wall, to block a neighbor, out of spite, in just a few weeks.
As an old man, Ralph was the most honest person I have met.
He frequently talked about killing himself if he got incapacitated, the many years I knew him. He got diagnosed with cancer and blew his brains out.
Keith
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[Re: KeithC]
#8603449 04/26/2612:08 AM04/26/2612:08 AM
You never knew anyone that had or died of cirrhosis, Savell? I did one. Drank his liver to death. His skin started turning yellow. He was younger than me when it happened and that was nearly 10 years ago. He went on dialysis. They said he had less than 6 months to live if he did not get a transplant. Messed up deal... once he got diagnosed to die, his wife ran off and left him for another woman! And I sort of lost touch with both of them at that point. BUT a couple years later, I heard he was alive and involved with a different woman, and apparently healthy so I can only assume he must have gotten the transplant.
Unlike Keith though, I guess I was a slow learner, lol.
Proud Leader of Moosetrot's Squad
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[Re: KeithC]
#8603452 04/26/2612:14 AM04/26/2612:14 AM
You never knew anyone that had or died of cirrhosis, Savell? I did one. Drank his liver to death. His skin started turning yellow. He was younger than me when it happened and that was nearly 10 years ago. He went on dialysis. They said he had less than 6 months to live if he did not get a transplant. Messed up deal... once he got diagnosed to die, his wife ran off and left him for another woman! And I sort of lost touch with both of them at that point. BUT a couple years later, I heard he was alive and involved with a different woman, and apparently healthy so I can only assume he must have gotten the transplant.
Unlike Keith though, I guess I was a slow learner, lol.
I still drink, but not much. I would drink more if I didn't prefer spending money on other things more.
My youngest brother actually wrote a book on wine and was the national beverage manager for a hotel chain and then later a national restaurant chain that owns 5 upscale brands. He created a new bar based restaurant for them. He then managed the number one bar/pub/restaurant in Ohio. He's a master sommelier.
I don't think there's anything wrong with most people drinking. In some people though, like Leroy and Rick, the first sip of alcohol is like flipping a switch leading to total destruction.
Angela do you remember the smell of that man you knew who had cirrhosis? Both Leroy and Rick both had about the worst smell I've ever smelled when they got it. The smell was even worse than the yellow skin and yellow bloodshot eyes.
Leroy was a red headed white guy. Savell reminds me a lot of him from his personality that I catch here, which is why I like him. Leroy was a lot of fun when he was sober or just starting to drink.
Keith
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[Re: KeithC]
#8603461 04/26/2612:52 AM04/26/2612:52 AM
I don't believe most Libertarians are claiming drug use is not a problem. What they are saying is it is cheaper for the taxpayer to simply allow people to kill themselves with chemicals if that is their choice.
I was hopeful that Trump was serious about stopping drug smuggling. So far as I can tell in spite of all the stories about drug interdiction there has been no impact on availability in our country.
They are illegal for one reason only. Money. Billions and billions of dollars being made.
Ever wonder why cartel leaders in charge of U.S. distribution are never put on a wanted list??? They DO exist or distribution would not be so efficient.
Ever wonder how much drug money ends up as bribes in the form of campaign contributions?
Is it wrong to assume our judicial system and law enforcement is at least as corrupt as in say Mexico? I don't believe it is. Else dangerous drugs would not be so readily available, everywhere.
I believe that marijuana is now legal in so many places is the result of volume. Not volume of users but quantity of material needed to be consumed by users. A pound of meth for example will supply many times more users than a pound of marijuana. It has never been anywhere near as profitable as cocaine opioids or meth.
IMO the fact that marijuana is far less dangerous than many drugs, likely less dangerous than ethanol, has nothing to do with it. It is just easier to tax those two drugs and siphon off money. The other recreational and currently illegal drugs have more potential for profit.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Somalis unite white & black Americans & Mexicans.
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#8603657 04/26/2601:54 PM04/26/2601:54 PM
I don't believe most Libertarians are claiming drug use is not a problem. What they are saying is it is cheaper for the taxpayer to simply allow people to kill themselves with chemicals if that is their choice.
I was hopeful that Trump was serious about stopping drug smuggling. So far as I can tell in spite of all the stories about drug interdiction there has been no impact on availability in our country.
They are illegal for one reason only. Money. Billions and billions of dollars being made.
Ever wonder why cartel leaders in charge of U.S. distribution are never put on a wanted list??? They DO exist or distribution would not be so efficient.
Ever wonder how much drug money ends up as bribes in the form of campaign contributions?
Is it wrong to assume our judicial system and law enforcement is at least as corrupt as in say Mexico? I don't believe it is. Else dangerous drugs would not be so readily available, everywhere.
I believe that marijuana is now legal in so many places is the result of volume. Not volume of users but quantity of material needed to be consumed by users. A pound of meth for example will supply many times more users than a pound of marijuana. It has never been anywhere near as profitable as cocaine opioids or meth.
IMO the fact that marijuana is far less dangerous than many drugs, likely less dangerous than ethanol, has nothing to do with it. It is just easier to tax those two drugs and siphon off money. The other recreational and currently illegal drugs have more potential for profit.
Do Libertarians also believe innocents being harmed are an acceptable consequence? The answer is, yes.