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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604458
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So Savell it looks like we have backed ourselves into the issue with Iran more so than Israel has backed us into it

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604459
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… Yessir the times not right yet

…. For you to say they don’t have expansionist ideas is a bit naive


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Savell] #8604463
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Originally Posted by Savell

…. What about a change in the national mindset … a push towards nationalism rather than multiculturalism and globalism


So how would that look? Would citizens be willing to pay higher prices for gas produced nationally instead of globally? Or, would consumers pressure corporations to sell their product for a lower price than they could get on a global market? Or, would government mandate that they do?


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Yes sir] #8604464
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
So Savell it looks like we have backed ourselves into the issue with Iran more so than Israel has backed us into it


…..absolutely disagree

… it’s as easy as saying Iran likely would have never even had nuclear ambitions had we not placed and continued to finance a nuclear armed isreal there in the first place

… and look a little into what happened leading up to isreal getting nukes when you get a minute


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: yotetrapper30] #8604466
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Savell

…. What about a change in the national mindset … a push towards nationalism rather than multiculturalism and globalism


So how would that look? Would citizens be willing to pay higher prices for gas produced nationally instead of globally? Or, would consumers pressure corporations to sell their product for a lower price than they could get on a global market? Or, would government mandate that they do?


At this point it would be ugly .. so no I don’t think it’s possible under the current system being as the original idea of the republic has been bastardized into whatever this nonsense we have now is called


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604467
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I agree with you there. My opinion is that short of a revolution that will likely never occur, this country is toast.


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Savell] #8604469
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Originally Posted by Savell
… Yessir the times not right yet

…. For you to say they don’t have expansionist ideas is a bit naive

Purely speaking and looking at it from the point of evidence not ideas. Lot of countries have ideas of expanding especially our enemies which if they get bigger they get more powerful. I believe its a much bigger game than most of us can understand. But you have some great points on some things that we need to work on in house to make us stronger but we can't ignore one front to just focus on another

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604470
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Capitalism, without a bit of nationalism for the host country that encouraged it, is detrimental to the citizenry of the host country in the long run.

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: J Staton] #8604471
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Capitalism, without a bit of nationalism for the host country that encouraged it, is detrimental to the citizenry of the host country in the long run.


You're gonna have to elaborate on that!


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: yotetrapper30] #8604473
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The epa is a huge reason we have not built new refinerys from waht i have read. Add in envirmental groupd impact studied they get tied up in court for years. Its expensive to do business here and easier to do it in other countries. So they do.

When Iran runs out of places to put the oil they will have to shut down wells. When that happens it is not something easy to restart and if the do production never gets back to the same level if at all. At least if what I read is accurate. I personally lnow nothing about oil wells maybe somone here can confirm if that is correct?

Off topic but I always prefer to fill up after work that way im not pressed for time if something goes wrong in the morning.

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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Savell] #8604474
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Originally Posted by Savell
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So Savell it looks like we have backed ourselves into the issue with Iran more so than Israel has backed us into it


…..absolutely disagree

… it’s as easy as saying Iran likely would have never even had nuclear ambitions had we not placed and continued to finance a nuclear armed isreal there in the first place

… and look a little into what happened leading up to isreal getting nukes when you get a minute

Has Isreal used their nuclear powers to strong arm any of their neighbors for Ireals gain?

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Yes sir] #8604475
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Savell
… Yessir the times not right yet

…. For you to say they don’t have expansionist ideas is a bit naive

Purely speaking and looking at it from the point of evidence not ideas. Lot of countries have ideas of expanding especially our enemies which if they get bigger they get more powerful. I believe its a much bigger game than most of us can understand. But you have some great points on some things that we need to work on in house to make us stronger but we can't ignore one front to just focus on another


… the difference is we try to make it harder for those countries to do so …. Not easier …. Well except for one


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604476
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… not yet yessir… not yet


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604477
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A nuclear Iran would shift a lot of global power to our enemies such as China and Russia i believe.

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The lust for money would better describe my thoughts, rather than true capitalism.

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: Savell] #8604480
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Originally Posted by Savell
… not yet yessir… not yet

What has stopped them up to this point

Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: foxkidd44] #8604481
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Where does China fit into all of this? I expect they have more politicians bought and paid for than Israel could ever dream of.

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…. We’re still useful and our work is not quite done


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Re: UNFREAKINGBELIVABLE!! Gas prices jumped big time [Re: J Staton] #8604487
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Where does China fit into all of this? I expect they have more politicians bought and paid for than Israel could ever dream of.

Maybe on one side of the isle

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Originally Posted by J Staton
Where does China fit into all of this? I expect they have more politicians bought and paid for than Israel could ever dream of.


…. lol

…. Yeffery Epchingchong


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