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Re: Follow the Science... [Re: Leftlane] #8606389
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
So you got all the shots and still caught covid?

That's the part that always gets me.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606397
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I have a friend who has been a nurse for years. In fall 2021 she complained to me privately that every room on her floor at the hospital was filled with covid patients. Not wanting to miss the opportunity I pointed out that she worked in Austin and I thought everyone was vaccinated. She then informed me that the vaccine made the symptoms less severe. I thought (but didn't ask) what part of admitted into the hospital is less severe?


What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.
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Re: Follow the Science... [Re: Leftlane] #8606419
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I have a friend who has been a nurse for years. In fall 2021 she complained to me privately that every room on her floor at the hospital was filled with covid patients. Not wanting to miss the opportunity I pointed out that she worked in Austin and I thought everyone was vaccinated. She then informed me that the vaccine made the symptoms less severe. I thought (but didn't ask) what part of admitted into the hospital is less severe?



The question i asked my Dr when asking him about the shot. After me running back down the info he tols me back to him.

Me " so you can still catch and transmit covid but the symptoms will be less" Dr "correct" Me covid symptoms range from not knowing you have it to death," DR "correct" me "so how are you determining if a person would have been one that didn't know they had covid or would have died, you have no way of knowing where they would fall with or without the shot" Dr. " um well um becuse you will tell me how your feeling" me " yes but you have no way of knowing if I would be one that would have not known i had it or would have died and no way of knowing if the shot made a difference at all. Infact if it does work like you say making symptoms less more people should be in the have covid and not know it camp so moving around like normal not staying home, and since they can still spread covid they will be spreading it while doing so. Sounds like the shot is going to make things worse if it does what you say.
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Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606420
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I know friends, and relatives, that "followed the science", every jab and boosters....EVERYONE has had Covid multiple times.....believe what you want.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606421
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Imagine a disease so deadly and the risks were so great, being symptomless was one of the symptoms!

“Stay home save lives” was a lie

“We’re in this together” was a lie

“Two weeks to slow the spread” was a lie

“Masks help prevent the spread” was a lie

“Super spreader events” was a lie

“The vaccine is a dead end for Covid” was a lie

“You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccines” was a lie

“Breakthrough cases are rare” was a lie

“The shot is 100% effective” was a lie

“Only two shots to get your life back” was a lie

“You just need to get the third one” was a lie

“The fourth one offers the most protection” was a lie

“A million people died of Covid” was a lie

“Pandemic of the unvaccinated” was a lie

“Winter of severe illness and death” was a lie

“Nobody was forced to take it” is a lie

“The vaccines saved millions” is a lie

“Nobody is injured or dying from the shot” is a lie

It’s all lies.

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Re: Follow the Science... [Re: Teacher] #8606427
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Originally Posted by Teacher
Given a choice, I followed the advice of my doc at the time, and got vaccinated. My wife followed the advice of her doc at Mayo Clinic. Both of us were in our early 70s and, as such, we were at great risk of getting Covid-19. We got the shots, followed by the boosters, and beat Covid until January of this year.

We followed what we thought then, and still think now, was/is good strong medical advice. None of these docs suggested injecting bleach, or taking ivermectin, or something else that was not approved for human use. If this makes me crazy, well, think what you will. We’re alive. As opposed to the thousands who died in this country who decided NOT to be vaccinated.

Wouldn't you like to have known the possible side effects of the mRNA vaccine or are you fine that .gov said it was safe when .gov knew full well that it wasn't? I started this thread not as an anti-vaccine thread, it was simply a thread to inform my fellow trappers what .gov has done to the very people it governs.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606430
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Spjones I agree with your list except for no one being forced to take it. At least down here they were both holding people down giving them shots.

They did threaten them with job loss if they didnt get the shot. Then they made the choice to take it to stay employed. So was still a choice just not a good choice.

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I do know a lady that got bells palsy about that time , they told her it was stress , she would have been about 35 at the time.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606436
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I’m no lawyer but coerced, is a soft form of being forced

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8606437
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
I do know a lady that got bells palsy about that time , they told her it was stress , she would have been about 35 at the time.


I know 3 people that had heart issues very soon after geting the shot.

I never got the shot but did get covid and flue B. Found out I had it at the trapping convention when I could not smell coyote bait at a vender. It clicked that my tea they morning was not watered down but I could not taste it and I left fast not wanting to spread it.

AND a few months later they didnt know if i had long covid or MS. Turns out its MS. I think covid had something to do with the on set of MS but cant prove it. May not be related at all. Thats when it all started though.

Edit decided to do a search
. Increased Risk: Research from Örebro University suggests a link between severe COVID-19 and a subsequent MS diagnosis. While rare, this indicates COVID-19 may act as a trigger, similar to other viruses like EBV.

I may be correct about covid triggering my MS. Now im also willing to admit had i gotten the shots i would wrongly blaim MS on the shot.

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Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606442
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I have told several Drs trying to talk me into something I was not comfortable with that we were discussing my health and not theirs. Drs repeat whatever they are told by pharmaceutical companies and CDC among others.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Follow the Science... [Re: danny clifton] #8606444
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I have told several Drs trying to talk me into something I was not comfortable with that we were discussing my health and not theirs. Drs repeat whatever they are told by pharmaceutical companies and CDC among others.

You're right Danny. I don't figure doctors were informed of the adverse reactions either. They were likely doing what .gov recommended.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: spjones] #8606445
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Originally Posted by spjones
I’m no lawyer but coerced, is a soft form of being forced



That was the intent yes. But there still was a choice no gun to the head. They chose the outcome they saw as best of bad choices for them. Then complain upset they didnt have the balls to make the choice they wanted probably becuse they are debt slaves in the system. I made the choice I would loose my job before taking the shot ahead of time. Fortunately I didnt have to follow through life would be much different now without the last several of my highest earning years of my life that enabled me to no longer be a debt slave.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: spjones] #8606448
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Originally Posted by spjones
Imagine a disease so deadly and the risks were so great, being symptomless was one of the symptoms!

“Stay home save lives” was a lie

“We’re in this together” was a lie

“Two weeks to slow the spread” was a lie

“Masks help prevent the spread” was a lie

“Super spreader events” was a lie

“The vaccine is a dead end for Covid” was a lie

“You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccines” was a lie

“Breakthrough cases are rare” was a lie

“The shot is 100% effective” was a lie

“Only two shots to get your life back” was a lie

“You just need to get the third one” was a lie

“The fourth one offers the most protection” was a lie

“A million people died of Covid” was a lie

“Pandemic of the unvaccinated” was a lie

“Winter of severe illness and death” was a lie

“Nobody was forced to take it” is a lie

“The vaccines saved millions” is a lie

“Nobody is injured or dying from the shot” is a lie

It’s all lies.

This sums it up better than anything else I've read.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606451
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I'm just glad I never ran completely out of toilet paper during that time. I woulda wound up with a lot of sleeveless t shirts.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606453
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And don't forget the reefer units and hospital ships anchored in big city ports to handle the soon-to-be-overwhelming amount of dead and dying.


Eh...wot?

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606563
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The way they handled the elderly in nursing homes and such almost looks like the point was to kill them off. Maybe that was part of a save social security plan.

Re: Follow the Science... [Re: J Staton] #8606624
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They absolutely intended to kill people 100%.....Congress wasn't required to take the jab, they were exempt....Employers with 100 or more employees were coerced to require the jab through intimidation by the president who kept threatening to make it mandatory, but he never legally did.

How many poor souls caved to all the societal, professional, and executive pressure to inject themselves multiple times with a substance of which the ingredients were never made public?

How many other vaccines ever required a signature, and then no legal action could be pursued for injury?

It was all planned.


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