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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: Pete in Frbks] #8613708
05/18/26 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by Boco
Wolves are a lot easier to catch when they are overpopulated(hungry).
No need to wipe them out-in fact counterproductive to the line.
Just need to be kept at lower densities on the land.



The "lower density" population thingy is something that both the courts and the anti's just cannot grasp! And therein lies the political problem.

Pete


Very true Pete.
Politics is stupid one side wants wolves totally protected and the other side wants them totally wiped out,Two gong shows at the same time,lol/No middle ground to be found-did someone say Politics?

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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613739
05/18/26 04:00 PM
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USA trappers MIGHT be somewhere in the middle as what we have been asking for is a regulated FAIR quota for a wolf harvest in states that have them.
Gotta ask... respectively ...Boco and other Canadian and Alaskan trappers do you have a wolf harvest quota? How would you feel about having a quota on
wolves vastly under what is present in the state populations? The Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin guys for instance have lots of wolves and have no season.
You can imagine what their deer populations are....

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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613741
05/18/26 04:13 PM
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No quota on wolves here,but there is a quota on beaver.
Trappers on RTLs know that in order to maintain substantial beaver quotas you have to manage the wolf population at minimum sustainable numbers.Also helps the moose and all other furbearers and game animals as well.
Overpopulation of wolves can ruin a trap;ine fairly quickly.It is getting harder to do with all the vacant traplines around nowadays.

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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MChewk] #8613743
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Mike, yes our deer population in the U.P. has been affected by the wolves overpopulation, I'm sure moose are affected as well.


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613755
05/18/26 04:56 PM
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No quota in my part of Alaska. Not sure whether there is anywhere in the state.

I really do not think that trappers could adversely impact most wolf populations over time. Trapping them just is not that efficient IMO.


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613766
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No quotas in Manitoba. The province is trying to get more wolf trappers out there by putting on free courses. Like I said before, some try it for a season, maybe get a couple and it’s a check mark on their animal list and a nice hide hanging on the wall. There’s always lots of lightly used or brand new wolf gear for sale around here. I’m alway too impatient and pay full market value…..lol


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613775
05/18/26 06:03 PM
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… oh crap W17 is back …. I better straighten up


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MChewk] #8613788
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Originally Posted by MChewk
USA trappers MIGHT be somewhere in the middle as what we have been asking for is a regulated FAIR quota for a wolf harvest in states that have them.
Gotta ask... respectively ...Boco and other Canadian and Alaskan trappers do you have a wolf harvest quota? How would you feel about having a quota on
wolves vastly under what is present in the state populations? The Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin guys for instance have lots of wolves and have no season.
You can imagine what their deer populations are....


No quota here, and I wouldn’t like it if there was one. Too much work to get going when you start seriously trapping Wolves. When I get going, that’s all I do and I’m not stopping till the season is over or the weather ends it.


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: Jurassic Park] #8613792
05/18/26 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
No quota here, and I wouldn’t like it if there was one. Too much work to get going when you start seriously trapping Wolves. When I get going, that’s all I do and I’m not stopping till the season is over or the weather ends it.

Our government is waaaay behind to even think about quotas… How long has there been no otter season in zone 1, friggin things are everywhere!…..lol


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613797
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Lol ya and zone 1 is huge!


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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8613919
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Thanks All great info...good post Mark!

Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8614034
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Alaska does not have quotas on wolves that I am aware of.

W17 is correct... trapping is highly unlikely to cause significant mortality in wolf populations. It can, however, have an important moderating influence on predation and wolf populations.

Pete

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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Alaska does not have quotas on wolves that I am aware of.

W17 is correct... trapping is highly unlikely to cause significant mortality in wolf populations. It can, however, have an important moderating influence on predation and wolf populations.

Pete

Yup, the only way we eliminated them the first time was poison, bounty, and an anything goes, all hands on deck approach. And it took a hundred years. No way we are going to eliminate them now with any sort of regulated approach. Yet the antis keep screaming the sky is falling.

Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: MJM] #8614432
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Just read Wyoming is proposing a 50% cut in the wolf harvest cause of the population decline due to the distemper outbreak...

Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: chucky22250] #8614452
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Originally Posted by chucky22250
Mike, yes our deer population in the U.P. has been affected by the wolves overpopulation, I'm sure moose are affected as well.


are the deer affected, yea, I'm sure they are.
On one hand I know people in N. WI that complain that there are no more deer in the Nat. Forest to hunt then on the other hand they send me pictures of 30 deer in their back yard with several nice bucks.
I see trail cams from others that show there are still deer around.
the deer have figured out that its safer around human habitation than out in the more wild areas.
So I doubt the deer herd is as bad as many make it out.

Look at it this way, whats better for the land, few deer or lots of deer? Obviously less deer is better than too many deer.

In the S. half of WI where I am there are way too many deer, lots of native plants are disappearing and can't regenerate due to the deer. White Oaks for one.
DNR forester from the center of the state told me last summer that regeneration of trees is very rare in his area. Aspen, Oak and even Maple regeneration is pretty much nonexistent due to the deer.

I'm sorry fellas but I'm not selfish enough to think only of myself, I'm more concerned about land and its health than how easily a deer can be found and shot.

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Re: Yellowstone wolves [Re: gcs] #8614532
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Originally Posted by gcs
Just read Wyoming is proposing a 50% cut in the wolf harvest cause of the population decline due to the distemper outbreak...

Wasn’t the current quotas not being met in the 3 wolf states anyways? Somewhere around 60%?


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