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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 12:01 AM
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what are you talking about now
entirely too vague for an idiot like me to understand I guess
. But what comes to mind is my cousin fought in the Middle East
kicked a lot of butt .. then joined private security over there after he got out
came back and kicked more butt here at home
finally headed up a non profit for ptsd and is doing alright last I heard
. Guess youre referencing a news story or something?
That incident in Tennessee. The attacker got in his face saying he had PTSD. Another incident in Commiefornia where a navy vet claiming PTSD beat a 70yo to death over a Trump flag. PTSD is now a weapon and excuse for bad behavior. I've seen this show before in the 70s and 80s and dad didn't like it one bit and still don't. As a vet myself knowing that it is a very real deal and most just deal with it as best they can, like dad did, I can't help but remember dad saying crazy going in, crazy going out.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 06:28 AM
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While I do believe that some experiences can have a long term effect on some individuals mental health I believe that the term / diagnosis of PTSD is being used as a cop out for a majority of those supposedly diagnosed not being able to face anything other than seeing rainbows and unicorns. Take first responders (ambulance crews specifically) as an example you work a wagon long enough you're gonna see blood, guts and gore, if you don't think you'll be able to take scraping brain matter up from a car wreck find another job cuze sooner or later you're gonna get a call where you're picking up body parts. Life is not all rose pedals and soft relaxing music.
Last edited by Jingles; 05/23/26 06:36 AM.
The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 06:36 AM
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I get where Warriors coming from. There is a local vet here who moved in from Mississippi about 10 yrs ago.
Veteran of the Afghanistan war, who draws a disability check though he recreates everyday, carries a belt holstered handgun, smokes weed & drinks like a fish.
Here's the problem....He's a hyper vigilant patrol freak, continously canvassing the neighborhood lashing out at perceived slights, and also happens to be a sexual predator, who has freaked out every woman for miles.....Nobody around here likes this POS because of the aforementioned, and his attempts to intimidate by menacing, and telling everyone he has PTSD.
Many of these guys are in society unfortunately, but when I think of my uncles in Vietnam & great uncle in WW2, who saw 100x more action and acted like normal people their whole lives, it makes me think a lot of these current PTSD vets are gaming the system on our dime.....Sure, some are legit and need our help, and we're grateful to help them like they helped us.
But not the ones like the person I described, who will be found shot in a ditch at some point with the way he's acting.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 10:26 AM
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So who is helping our firefighters ,police officers and,Ems works through their 30+ years of mental trauma???? No one , it's pretty bad for most of them
YouTube expert "The bird of Hermes is my name , eating my wings to keep me tame"
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 10:34 AM
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So who is helping our firefighters ,police officers and,Ems works through their 30+ years of mental trauma???? Around here there are some mental health type counselors at the local hospital they can talk to if they want. I don't know how helpful that is or how deep it goes.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 11:48 AM
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So who is helping our firefighters ,police officers and,Ems works through their 30+ years of mental trauma???? Nobody. Sure you can go talk to someone, but that someone is most likely going to be a left winger who will automatically decide she needs to report that you need your guns taken away because you might be a threat to yourself or others. Now they have taken away some more of your rights and that just makes the problem(s) worse.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 12:02 PM
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Always curious why PTSD affects some people and not others, even though they've had the same experiences.... anyone have a thought? I've never been in combat, but have participated in some major recoveries after disasters, was always offered "counseling"but never felt the need, or had any repercussions from it...I realize it's not the same as combat but there must be a reason some are seemingly not affected..... Everyones brains work and process things differently then there's also stuff to be said about the environment
YouTube expert "The bird of Hermes is my name , eating my wings to keep me tame"
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Re: PTSD and veteran
[Re: Jingles]
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05/23/26 02:48 PM
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While I do believe that some experiences can have a long term effect on some individuals mental health I believe that the term / diagnosis of PTSD is being used as a cop out for a majority of those supposedly diagnosed not being able to face anything other than seeing rainbows and unicorns. Take first responders (ambulance crews specifically) as an example you work a wagon long enough you're gonna see blood, guts and gore, if you don't think you'll be able to take scraping brain matter up from a car wreck find another job cuze sooner or later you're gonna get a call where you're picking up body parts. Life is not all rose pedals and soft relaxing music.
Not just soy boys and emotional support animals. There are some serious drunk doper criminal types either being given a pass or trying to game the system. Not only is it wrong but it honestly hurts those who are dealing with past trauma the best that they can.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 02:50 PM
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It's impossible to have a honest conversation about Vets.
We should be extremely appreciative of our Veterans and we should get them the benefits they were promised. The folks who served who need help should get it and we should be happy to give it to them.
That said a percentage of Military members were morons before entering and are still morons coming out. 1 in 3 Veterans is now on "service related" disability, the average time of enlistment is 6 years. I understand some people get hurt and they need to be cared for as promised but over 30% being disabled after a average 6 year enlistment...
One of my friends came back from Iraq right at the heat of soldiers returning and the VA wait times and care SUCKED, it's greatly improved but hearing reports from him about being stuck in line behind people who never deployed to combat and were claiming PTSD was absurd. He did get the help he needed eventually and is doing great now but it shouldn't of taken as long as it did and the people claiming PTSD who never deployed really get me riled up.
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Re: PTSD and veteran
[Re: white17]
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05/23/26 03:01 PM
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What environment might that be ? Somone on a FOB getting shot at or mortared 24/7 is probably gonna have different deal for PTSD compared to a REMF who got a ied strike on his convoy first time out the gate and that will probably be different from a suburban cop who just saw there first shooting vs one who's been in the hood like last 5 years . Remember the shrink saying its akin to an immediate shock to the brain possibly cause more or less damage vs prolonged exposure possibly causing more or less but in different ways
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Re: PTSD and veteran
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05/23/26 03:30 PM
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I suppose it might be viewed that way. I often wonder if . 1 PTSD is a real thing and 2. what is the incidence of 'PTSD' in the opposition forces and how is that being dealt with .
Is it something that has always been part of the human condition or just a 20th century, western civilization construct to excuse uncivilized or irresponsible behavior, as well as society's lack of support for those they put in harms way and then rejected ? I kind of think that what we call PTSD today is a direct result of no longer living in a world where normal adjustment to trauma begins from childhood.
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