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Re: PTSD and veteran [Re: white17] #8615788
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Originally Posted by white17
What environment might that be ?


Somone on a FOB getting shot at or mortared 24/7 is probably gonna have different deal for PTSD compared to a REMF who got a ied strike on his convoy first time out the gate and that will probably be different from a suburban cop who just saw there first shooting vs one who's been in the hood like last 5 years .

Remember the shrink saying its akin to an immediate shock to the brain possibly cause more or less damage vs prolonged exposure possibly causing more or less but in different ways


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Re: PTSD and veteran [Re: warrior] #8615796
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I suppose it might be viewed that way. I often wonder if . 1 PTSD is a real thing and 2. what is the incidence of 'PTSD' in the opposition forces and how is that being dealt with .

Is it something that has always been part of the human condition or just a 20th century, western civilization construct to excuse uncivilized or irresponsible behavior, as well as society's lack of support for those they put in harms way and then rejected ?


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Re: PTSD and veteran [Re: white17] #8615803
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Originally Posted by white17
I suppose it might be viewed that way. I often wonder if . 1 PTSD is a real thing and 2. what is the incidence of 'PTSD' in the opposition forces and how is that being dealt with .

Is it something that has always been part of the human condition or just a 20th century, western civilization construct to excuse uncivilized or irresponsible behavior, as well as society's lack of support for those they put in harms way and then rejected ?


I kind of think that what we call PTSD today is a direct result of no longer living in a world where normal adjustment to trauma begins from childhood.


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Re: PTSD and veteran [Re: warrior] #8615805
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That could certainly be part of it. A childhood with no consequences for poor behavior. I think it has become more prevalent with the passage of time


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I think we are all different. Nightmares are real. Seen a guy puke once just helping me gut a deer. I did not cut the guts. No foul odor. All he was doing was holding the back legs. I also think its not just body parts etc but mental anguish. Its not new. Used to call it shell shock battle fatigue etc.


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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by white17
I suppose it might be viewed that way. I often wonder if . 1 PTSD is a real thing and 2. what is the incidence of 'PTSD' in the opposition forces and how is that being dealt with .

Is it something that has always been part of the human condition or just a 20th century, western civilization construct to excuse uncivilized or irresponsible behavior, as well as society's lack of support for those they put in harms way and then rejected ?


I kind of think that what we call PTSD today is a direct result of no longer living in a world where normal adjustment to trauma begins from childhood.


I mean , various conditions that would fall under or be diagnosed as PTSD have been around and have been documented since Rome . Like a lot of mental conditions it's not new we have just progressed in medicine and science to where we can actually put a name to this stuff .

It's like how back in the 1800's you probably couldn't convince someone that a person who was a severe autistic, or someone with down syndrome wants just possessed by a demon or something . But again it effects everyone differently and it come in different deals . There some people that stuff just plain didn't bother or there abel to rationalize it in a different way . Then there's other folks that the same stuff will just plain screw up for life. The human mind is a complex thing

There been some studies that show people in the military who go though alot of this stuff and don't come out with some form of mental illness usually end up being something like high functioning sociopaths or lil lower on the IQ score deal to where there kinda emotionaly stunted and it just don't register. Idk have to find them again.





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