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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8628929
06/23/26 10:03 PM
06/23/26 10:03 PM
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Unfortunately, I have an appointment that day and won't be able to attend. I'll check out the online thing and see about testifying there however. I may not actually set a trap in Oregon most years, but I buy license every year so I can run over and cat hunt, and I have thrown traps in the truck at times and set a few beaver and otter sets when I plan on being there a few days. The fact I've bought an Oregon nonresident license every year since 97 should throw a little weight behind my testimony.

Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8628939
06/23/26 10:27 PM
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Anyone can comment trough email on the odfw web site. I'm not sure but I think some of the stuff needs to be in by tomorrow it tells you on the web site. I sent in a hand written letter that is supposed to be hand delivered to the commissioners as I won't be able to attend the meeting.


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8628946
06/23/26 11:11 PM
06/23/26 11:11 PM
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Thanks Darren! Good deal. And he's right, on-line comments by Wednesday. I've heard that it's running about 90% in favor of antis right now.

If anybody can possibly attend you will help shift the balance. We need a good showing Friday morning.

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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8628958
06/23/26 11:39 PM
06/23/26 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Schmitt
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I believe the crux of the situation is that since the legislature shut down beaver trapping on public waters that otter has to ride along for that too. Traditionally in Oregon wherever there were beaver closures those areas were also closed for otter just to keep from catching beaver in otter sets. So Brian Wolfer (ODFW) is proposing just that to keep with the old rules. This is what we are fighting against because 3932 did not prohibit the take of otters...in fact I asked during the 3932 hearings if that would be the case and was assured that 3932 would not do that!

The Game Commission can make the rules however they see fit and we are hoping to show them that leaving otter harvest open is the right thing to do.



Legislative intent is supposed to be the goal of all statutory interpretation. The lawmaker(s) that stated that the bill would not prohibit the taking of otters should come to the hearing (or send a staff member(s) and testify to that effect, or at the very least submit written commentary stating that the intent of the statute was not intended to restrict otter trapping.

Good luck at the hearing.


Good luck with ANY politician saying anything about intent on one day and saying the same thing the next or even at 2 different meetings the same day.


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629025
06/24/26 07:28 AM
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Dumb outsider looking in....where are the timber companies on this legislation and... for that matter the fishing industry folks?

Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629030
06/24/26 07:41 AM
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What fishing industry? Other than the ocean (which isn't affected by this) the fishing industry is pretty much dead. I don't know about this particular time, but in the past some of the large timber companies have been known to sit in with the antis when they are writing up bills, and as long as they write in loopholes so the timber companies can continue to control the wildlife on their land, they will not fight them on the issues.

Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: MChewk] #8629051
06/24/26 08:32 AM
06/24/26 08:32 AM
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There was al
Originally Posted by MChewk
Dumb outsider looking in....where are the timber companies on this legislation and... for that matter the fishing industry folks?


Big timber (holdings of 5000 acres or more) are already closed off to beaver trapping except for ADC and you can't keep the pelt. Deal with the devil arranged by our governor. Timber caved because the antis agreed not to protest timber sales in return.


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629321
06/24/26 10:03 PM
06/24/26 10:03 PM
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Anybody else going to do their part to keep the antis from dictating furbearer policy in Oregon? We need you there...

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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629338
06/24/26 11:11 PM
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I've written and sent e-mail. Couldn't get the regular form to work. Plan on being there.


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629340
06/24/26 11:27 PM
06/24/26 11:27 PM
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It will be good to see you John...Thanks!


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629724
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Oregon
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See you guys tomorrow.

I will be signing up to testify. The following is my rough draft:

Greetings commissioners. My name is Carl Berg and I have held an Oregon trappers license since 1973.

Oregon trappers have a long history of collaboration with the Game Commission and ODFW. From live trapping beaver in the 30's and 40's for restoring beaver to areas of the state where they were no longer present, to live trapping otters for wildlife swaps with other states for bighorn sheep, trappers have been lending a hand. More than any other outdoors user group, trappers have provided important wildlife data. From volunteer marten carcass donation to ODFW, to turning in jawbones from bobcats and otter to analyze population dynamics. And much much more.

I personally have supplied beaver carcasses for ODFW bear, and marten & fisher studies. In fact ,(ironically), I (and other trappers) supplied male otter carcasses in the late 90's for necropsy studies by the DEQ to help determine the health of Oregon's waterways.

Which brings me to HB3932. The silliest piece of public policy I've ever seen. So, we now have areas of the Willamette river that are being closed off to beaver trapping so that beaver can restore the waters through their dam building? Give me a break!

I have a favor to ask of the Commission: Please do not exacerbate the harm done to me and other trappers by HB3932 to include otter as well. Richard Green from the ODFW Wildlife lab and Brian Wolfer, former biologist with the Springfield district ODFW office will tell you I know a thing or two about otter.

So Im telling you that while I may catch an otter from time to time in beaver sets, I never catch beaver in sets for the former. Because my sets are exclusively on otter toilets I know they will not catch beaver. We don't need otter harvest closure to ensure beaver are not caught.

I was told at the Senate hearings that HB3932 would not apply to otters when I asked that very question. Please, let that be true. Now is the time where we trappers would really appreciate appropriate reciprocation for all we have done.

Thank you!


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629726
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I might make it , ifn you want the extra support to fight communism

I'm not a water trapper but that's obviously not the point here .

I'm always busy but also willing to help support my fellow trapper

I'm not fond of the odfw and their horrible management practices of our mule deer , but I'll refrain.....


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Re: Oregon Otter Trapping Ban [Re: Petcoon] #8629785
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It's rediculous that you have to make the case that you won't catch a beaver in an otter set, when an occasional incidental would have no population level effect on beaver, but that is the level of understanding you are dealing with. Sad really.

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